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Old 10-06-2006, 02:52 PM
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Does anyone know if an adapter transmission mount is made to bolt on a GM style glide (bolt holes are 3.75" from center to center) to an E-body transmission crossmember? (2.75" from center to center)

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Old 10-07-2006, 02:48 AM
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Not that I know of. We don't use inferrior gm junk in our Hi powered Mopars. Wont hold up like a good A727 tranny. You can get one from TCI at www.tciauto.com Mopar, Only way to go fast.
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Old 10-07-2006, 09:31 AM
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LOL your kidding right?

Sandy Wilkins just went over 200mph in top sportsman with a small block and a glide.... get real.

If 727s were so much better they would be in the fastest race cars not just mopars. They are grenades waiting to go off. Im pretty sure there isnt a top sportsman legal small block mopar running 6s at over 200...I would be a beer on it. I would go double or nothing it doesnt have a 727 or 904 in it. I know some comp guys like the 904, very very expensive ones.
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Old 10-07-2006, 09:32 AM
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tranney schematics with dimensions




PG dimensions
A - 25 23/64 (short) 27 91/16 (long shaft)
B - 16 5/16
C - 20 9/16
D - 3.75
E - 19


TF dimensions
A - 34 ½
B - 16
C - 22.75
D - 2.75
E - 18 13/16

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Old 10-07-2006, 09:41 AM
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This 727 was in a 11 second bracket car, that did NOT have low band apply.
How fast are you going ?
these below are from a different car....I will take an SFI case and Bell over stock...but case not offered in 727..I guess they never break.





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Old 10-07-2006, 02:19 PM
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LOL your kidding right?

Sandy Wilkins just went over 200mph in top sportsman with a small block and a glide.... get real.
You're talking to an empty head, don't try to confuse him with facts.
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Old 10-07-2006, 05:12 PM
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I am sure all those pG out there are stock too...nothing aftermarket....

If you are racing a 727 in a FAST car...you need to use an aftermarket front drum....pretty easy...and Low ban apply manual valve body....that pretty easy too...
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Old 10-07-2006, 05:44 PM
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Please show me an SFI case for a 727
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Old 10-07-2006, 08:02 PM
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What? you don't trust a tranny blanket...

I agree, when going for those times, the power slide is the best choice.
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Old 10-07-2006, 08:29 PM
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Holy hand grenade, Batman! The driver of that Cuda is EXTREMELY lucky that his trans blew out through the passenger side and not the driver's side...
Love the hole all the way through the door. That just as easily could have been his leg.
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Old 10-07-2006, 08:38 PM
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through the CSI carbon fiber shield too!

Im pretty sure this guy was not using his tranney properly...I heard doing a burnout in a parking lot. Probably in first gear.... but yes very lucky.
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Old 10-08-2006, 12:45 AM
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through the CSI carbon fiber shield too!

Im pretty sure this guy was not using his tranney properly...
I agree with you there. Launching it through the door is not proper use...
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Old 10-08-2006, 11:27 AM
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I am sure all those pG out there are stock too...nothing aftermarket....

If you are racing a 727 in a FAST car...you need to use an aftermarket front drum....pretty easy...and Low ban apply manual valve body....that pretty easy too...
None of those powerslides are stock. A stock one wont hold up to much of anything. Case in point a friends '63 SS 327 car that dumped his powerslide with T brake. Heck, they don't even use the stock case much less anything stock inside.

Have to run good parts the faster you go too, like you said.
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Old 10-08-2006, 11:31 AM
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Please show me an SFI case for a 727
Don't need one. TCI makes an SFI shield with a small air gap that surounds the tranny.
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Old 10-08-2006, 11:35 AM
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umm... there is more to the SFI cases than just the added protection such as much improved strength....

and those pics were through a trans shield.... yes driver is very lucky he survived with all limbs attached.
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Old 10-08-2006, 10:59 PM
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Launching it through the door is not proper use...
Ed wins the prize for understatement of the century!
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Old 10-08-2006, 11:29 PM
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Any tranny needs to be built for the use. What happened to Dick Landy's 727's? And more close to home,Zip Weddle ran many 11 second passes in his 62 Dart 440/727 with no troubles. What were they doing? I have a TCI Competition series tranny with a reverse manual valve body.... and it I would never trade for a GM crapper.
Shaun- If it ain't Mopar,what is it doing here? Mopars are for adults only,chevy and ford fans,please drink milk.
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Old 10-09-2006, 01:06 AM
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Any tranny needs to be built for the use. What happened to Dick Landy's 727's? And more close to home,Zip Weddle ran many 11 second passes in his 62 Dart 440/727 with no troubles. What were they doing? I have a TCI Competition series tranny with a reverse manual valve body.... and it I would never trade for a GM crapper.
Shaun- If it ain't Mopar,what is it doing here? Mopars are for adults only,chevy and ford fans,please drink milk.

Good post. I totally agree.
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Old 10-09-2006, 07:11 PM
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I ran 727's in my 10.5 bracket car for years & never had an explosion. The secret? Drive it correctly. When doing a burn out imediatly shift into 2nd. Do one "dry hop" then stage. If you break a rear or a drive shaft pull the trans and inspect the roller clutch (sprag). If the trans ever feels " strange" like maybe not leaving in 1st (driving in the pits) Check it!The only valve body I used was a Turbo Action "cheeta" which I don't think applies the rear band in 1st.
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Old 10-10-2006, 10:33 PM
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Sandy Wilkins just went over 200mph in top sportsman
Yeah, but what does he know? He's only in 7th place...

You guys running 11s and 10s with the 727, are fine. What Kevin is saying is, what happens when you're running in the 6s? Has ANYONE on this site ever run a 6-second pass at over 200MPH? I never have, and never will. But if I was planning on it, I'd be looking at what the guys who are winning were doing, and Kevin's right - none of them are using the TF.

I'm as big a Mopar fan as anyone on this site, but I'm not so stuck in my dogma that I can't admit it when there's something out there that works better. I'll never run a 'Glide because it's not the best trans for what I do - I'm getting a G.V. installed right now because I need more gears, not less. But I can admit it when there is a rightful place for one.
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Old 10-10-2006, 11:36 PM
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Top Fuelers aren't running 727's,or Cowerglides.
And nobody cares if you hang with the chibby guys,just stay there.
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Old 10-10-2006, 11:50 PM
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And what the hell is dogma?
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Old 10-11-2006, 12:07 AM
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Top Fuelers aren't running 727's,or Cowerglides.
Top fuelers aren't running any kind of an automatic. That just proves what I was saying, that there isn't one fixed "best" answer for every situation.
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And nobody cares if you hang with the chibby guys,just stay there.
Like I said, I'm as big a Mopar fan as anyone on this board. I've got a '65 Sweptline with a 440, sound familiar? And my other 3 vehicles are all Mopars. My wife is getting ready to buy a Caliber, that would make us a 5 Mopar family. No Chevies to be found.
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And what the hell is dogma?
1 a : something held as an established opinion; especially : a definite authoritative tenet b : a code of such tenets <pedagogical dogma> c : a point of view or tenet put forth as authoritative without adequate grounds.

In the case of this thread, (c) is the most appropriate definition.
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Old 10-11-2006, 12:23 AM
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Top fuelers aren't running any kind of an automatic.
Isn't that what i just said? Didn't you say who was running a 727 doing 6's?
And where did you come up with that word? Good definition,I trust,but are we here to argue over such little things?
Now I put our agreement to the test; what about the hemis and 440(blocks-stroked and bored) that are running 8's? Why arent their 727's blowing shrapnel? Why aren't they running to li'l jimmy?
Shaun-PS(had to) wanna race your fastest car against my 65 Swepty for Pinks?
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Old 10-11-2006, 03:44 AM
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Dave Smith at Pro-Trans recommends and builds 904s for the faster Mopars. I have heard that the 727 is slower than the 904 but have more longevity in heavy duty applications: motor homes, school buses, C-bodies and the beat goes on.......
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Old 10-11-2006, 05:24 AM
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Isn't that what i just said? Didn't you say who was running a 727 doing 6's?
Yes, I did say that, but I didn't say anything about Top Fuelers. Kevin brought up Sandy Wilkins, who races in Top Sportsman. They run automatics. PowerGlides, not 727s. And the fastest ones are dipping well into the 6s in the quarter. Yes, that used to be the realm of TF cars, but last I checked, the Fuelers were down into the 4s.
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Now I put our agreement to the test; what about the hemis and 440(blocks-stroked and bored) that are running 8's? Why arent their 727's blowing shrapnel? Why aren't they running to li'l jimmy?
I assume you must mean arguement, because you don't seem to be agreeing with me! I never said that the 727 wasn't a strong transmission. Obviously it is adequate for the guys running 8s. I'm not the one who made the observation that Top Sportsman cars are all running Glides, Kevin brought it up. I simply checked the facts to verify, and it's true. You think I like the fact that Mopars in the fastest classes are running Chevy parts in them? No, I don't. But it is true, and I have to accept that whether I like it or not. Tell you what - if you want to prove that a 727 can hold up in Top Sportsman, build a doorslammer that runs in the 6s, using one. Believe me, I would be grateful to you if you did.
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PS(had to) wanna race your fastest car against my 65 Swepty for Pinks?
Sure! My cars are set up for road racing, so we could run the course at either Buttonwillow, Laguna Seca, or Sears Point. Which do you prefer? How many laps?
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Old 10-11-2006, 06:25 AM
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When choosing transmission, I really considered a TF727. One well known company had their state of the art 727 for 6000$, and when I asked them about it fitting to our approximately 1300 hp car weighing 4000 lbs, they wish us good luck. Didn't even try to offer anything. Went with a JW glide instead. Haven't put it to test yet, but with about 700 hp it seems to have no problems. It's rated at 1800 hp, whatever that means. In a heavy car like ours, performance seems to suffer quite a lot with only two gears, and driving is dull. No need to hurry with the shifts. But hopefully we can cure that problem for next summer by adding some steam to the engine!
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Old 10-11-2006, 11:12 AM
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It would be nice if someone could just answer Cuda's question, instead of turning this into a 3-page pissing match..................
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Old 10-11-2006, 11:51 AM
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If you look back to the first page I gave him all the info he sought.

Shaun, can you tell me whats the winningest transmission in bracket race history? I see mopars putting glides in their cars all the time, I dont see any bracket cars putting 727s behind their chevs, or fords.... although if you want a 10K tranney I see some 904s in comp.
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Old 10-11-2006, 01:21 PM
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Does anyone know if an adapter transmission mount is made to bolt on a GM style glide (bolt holes are 3.75" from center to center) to an E-body transmission crossmember? (2.75" from center to center)
I believe this was the question, it's obvious he already had the dimensions.
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