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04-20-2007, 10:54 PM
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59 413
I have found a 59 413, still in a big ol Chrysler. it has the funkydoodle rear pump cast iron TF with the strange converter bolt up system, that I have never worked on. can I bolt a standard flexplate, and big block motor mounts on this 413 and stuff it in my 74 truck?
It runs like a watch, and someone wants my 390............ 
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04-20-2007, 11:02 PM
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Won't work. The crank actually has nuts and bolts to hold on the flywheel/flexplate, not just threaded holes. Push the converter back too far in a newer trans. I think you could use the old torquflite with it, if you really want it though. Just need some driveshaft mods, cable shifter, etc..... May be more work than you want to do.
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04-20-2007, 11:26 PM
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Not going to happen huh? Does it have a flexplate at all? Or is it more like a flywheel?
Or is it just too much trouble to mess with? I really don't want the cast iron TF in it. When did the aluminum one come out anyway? Is there a way to put the older converter in the newer TF? Basically, is there any easy way to do this, without changing the crank?
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04-21-2007, 01:09 AM
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04-21-2007, 01:26 AM
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 Now, where is John??? 
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04-21-2007, 02:15 AM
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Just put a late model (1962 & up) 413,426 or 440 crank in it. Then use the newer TF trans. Dan
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04-21-2007, 11:41 AM
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Yeah. Thats what I didn't want to do. Change crank, means change the rod and main bearings, and its a RB, so the rods need to be reconned with the new rod bearings, which means the heads and pistons come out, and since I am that far, a hone and rings, and a valvejob, and hell, I cant put a dirty motor back together, so a hot tank.............
You get the idea. Oh well, maybe I will just sell him the 390 outright, and put another tired 318 in it's place. I am looking to go big block though, which is why I am looking at the 413.
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04-21-2007, 12:04 PM
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Why can't you just take the PB controller out of the dash? I can't remember what the dash of a '59 Chrysler looks like, but it might have the buttons in a pod. Even if not in a pod, but integrated in the dash instead, take a saw to it and hack out what you need.
I thought there was some company that made a kit to convert cable PB Torqueflites to lever operation.
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04-21-2007, 12:22 PM
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If I could find it...........................it isn't in the car.
I just looked it up, 350HP, and 480 pounds of TQ, at 2800rpm.......... WHAAAAAAAAAAHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!! Maybe it is worth a crank swap, I have a steel crank 440.
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04-21-2007, 06:58 PM
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Dave is correct on the crank spacing, the pre-'62 V8's have an extended 8-bolt crank flange and the converter has 8 studs built in that take nuts on the front side of the crank flange.
The iron TF isn't bad if you avoid flogging it too hard. The iron TF cable will hook up to the '62-'64 dash shift mechanism with no problems but you won't be able to use the PARK lever since the iron box has no Park mechanism, only a tail mounted parking brake. (the '62 C body 727 has the same setup)
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04-21-2007, 09:40 PM
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What do you think the possibility of the older converter being made to work on the newer tranny, or a custom made converter, or something/something..........
Has this been done before, that someone knows of? We do have some guys here, that build custom converters.
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#19
04-22-2007, 12:29 AM
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426-350-8 AT 426-350 ADAPTER WITH FLEX PLATE AND HUB
ADAPTER FOR 8 BOLT CRANK $495.00 Look what I found............for a mere 500$ http://www.riley-auto.com/images/lin...5054455253.png I could TH-350 my truck! yay
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04-22-2007, 12:50 AM
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Huh, looks like if I made a 1" bell housing spacer, I could do this. The eight bolt holes are supposed to be the same as the 8 bolt A motors, and the hemi, as far as hole spacing goes.............................
Boy, this wasn't as easy as I thought.
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04-22-2007, 01:03 PM
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04-24-2007, 02:53 PM
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I don’t remember changing the crank. I did overhaul the engine before I put it in the 64 Fury but I know I didn’t have the money for a new crank. I know for sure that I used the 64 transmission with a floor shifter and the converter out of one of them. My dad worked at a Chrysler dealership so he may have picked me up a crack cheap but I don’t think so.
I would check further before I gave up. I would also look for some better heads because those engines were designed for torque and mine didn’t come off of the line well but when it started to roll it came on pretty strong. It may have been the converter stall speed.
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#26
05-05-2007, 06:44 PM
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He said it was a 1 ton. Torque is nice!
I almost bought a 53 Ford with a push button and a 383 when I was in high school 
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