fastnos and rumble

[dwc43]

You guys asked about comp series Tq's and choke so here's you some pics. And Rumble you asked about a TQ T ram pic, I posted one in a race car a long time ago, so I don't know what thread that is in and I'll post you ap ic here of a mock set up I am working on for my Duster stroker engine.

[dwc43]

Somone mentioned they thought the comp series has a gm or ford throttle lever on it. First pic clearly shows an adjustable throttle arm and an hole to mount the factory carb linkage stud to it. The last two pics are the mock up for my Duster.

[dwc43]

Also take notice in that second pic of how the secondaries are adjusted compared to the street version that they did not want you tampering with. Also notice the manual choke on the drivers side with that large spring on it. Nice to have a box load of new old carbs on the shelf aint it ... lol. If you run across a second comp series in great shape let me know. I need another one for my T Ram. I don't want to use stock carbs.

[fastnos]

Thanks for the Pictures, I save them all on the Hard drive. I've only had 2 cars that had the TQ on them. 1 was great all the time, and 1 needed "tweaking" Nothing like them when they're right on. Would like to get 1 for a current project, but don't know alot about them. I can tune a Holley with my eyes closed, but not much experience with the TQ's.
If you were going to get rid of one of the "new old carbs", what would you turn loose of one for? Thanks again! fastnos

[dwc43]

I'll probably hold on to what I have for now. If you need one you can get one from Advance Auto for about $200 or pic one up from a swap meet for about $25 and put a kit in it for about the same price. Very easy to rebuild as well. Also look here www.musiccitymoparclub.com I went there and copied Cato's post and put it on here. This guy might have what you need in usable shape. He's got tons of stuff and good to deal with. I bought a 2.2 turbo car from him once. All that stuff is at his house too. And if you need any help building one or tunning one let me know. I'll be glad to help.


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[rumblefish360]

Freakin great pictures DW! Excellent my bud, excellent!

That throttle lever thats is adjustable. Never seen that one, cool trick by Carter huh?
I posted up a picture of the T-Q with a Chevy arm. 98** I forget, I'll have to look tomorrow.
Also noted the secondary spring tentioner is like the AVS. The double vacuum can on the carb as well. Some weird differences on these carbs.

Fastnos, you can find them cheap @ the forums here and else where. E-bay has some at decent prices. Once in a blue, a NOS unit will pop up.
Older the better. The 71+ are what your looking for or truck versions since they have no emissions equipment on them.

Once they start in with the added ports and lean burn, there not very tweakable in there stock state and run lean on OE engines to start with.

Expect to pay between $25 - $50 for one. Sometimes E-bayers will pay more than a bengi for one, add shipping, ...not to great sometimes.

[MOPEkid]

I payed $75 (not including shipping) for a TQ and its original manifold off an '83 Dodge truck on eBay. Then a rebuild kit from Advance Auto was around $30. I love telling this kind of stuff to the import guys; when they want more performance their only choice is expensive new aftermarket parts and expensive computer programmers and such. I just go to the junkyard and grab some old engine parts off of some pickup trucks and I can build a nice, powerful engine.

[rumblefish360]

I'll have to make this post to add the same 2 cents to add salt to import guys wounds and further show just what your saying.

From the J-yard; vacuum advance distrib, $20, (quick advance spring, were like , what, $5? from MoPar, ) 4bbl T-Q intake, $25, free glass beading at work, lucky me , I know. T-Q carb, $25 , work fine from J-yard to car, tweak secondary spring, lay rubber all over town. Headers from J-yard, $10 and a laff.
Finished el-cheapo project with cheap cheap sumitt cam (Ground by Crane) 2 local speed shop mufflers $25 each with $10 straight pipe, mill heads at local shop $50 and lost 10cc from 360 head and shift improver kit.

Make local big mouth GM guy eat his words, over and over and over again, priceless!!!!!!!
318 Duster crush's F.I./O.D. Firebird. Whats better than that?

Answer, showing him old crappy parts and that "Alien" carb as he said it looked like. Yep, thats what it is, alien tech makeing big growling noises.

[cudabob496]

I recall Thermo-Quads being called Thermo-Boggs. Why did I hear that?

[namvet67a1f]

Originally Posted by cudabob496

I recall Thermo-Quads being called Thermo-Boggs. Why did I hear that?

Why ....you heard that because some people HAVE experienced JUST THAT.

Because they think they knew more than the Carter people that engineered the TQ .... some of these rocket-scientists either loosened the secondary air-valve spring-tension waaaay up ...OR they removed the air valve completely.

NOT the plan.

Properly set .... when the air-valve opens - it is almost like a turbocharger coming-in ! ...NO bull.

And to properly adjust this air-valve ...I offer a new and improved tool to EZily take care of this project.

PM me for details.

[dwc43]

Originally Posted by cudabob496

I recall Thermo-Quads being called Thermo-Boggs. Why did I hear that?

Cause idots got out there screw drivers and mucked with the air door tension spring and did not know what they were doing with it.

[dwc43]

Originally Posted by MOPEkid

I payed $75 (not including shipping) for a TQ and its original manifold off an '83 Dodge truck on eBay. Then a rebuild kit from Advance Auto was around $30. I love telling this kind of stuff to the import guys; when they want more performance their only choice is expensive new aftermarket parts and expensive computer programmers and such. I just go to the junkyard and grab some old engine parts off of some pickup trucks and I can build a nice, powerful engine.

I love doing stuff like that to the ricers too.

[dwc43]

Originally Posted by rumblefish360

Freakin great pictures DW! Excellent my bud, excellent!

That throttle lever thats is adjustable. Never seen that one, cool trick by Carter huh?
I posted up a picture of the T-Q with a Chevy arm. 98** I forget, I'll have to look tomorrow.
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Thanks. And I'll look forward to seeing that pic. I have not seen one with the chebby arm on it but htey did put these things on several makes of cars so anythings possible. And here's a pic of that T Ram Fury.

[cageman]

So that is two vacuum secodary carbs on a tunnel ram with NOS, is that a good idea?

[rumblefish360]

Originally Posted by cudabob496

I recall Thermo-Quads being called Thermo-Boggs. Why did I hear that?

Or they screwed with the pump shot in a big way.
Side note;
The old strip kit didn't come with extra boosters. AVS/AFB kits do. The T-Q could bennifit from extra boosters. The OE unit covers most every application though.

DW, your request has been granted.

[dwc43]

Originally Posted by rumblefish360

DW, your request has been granted.

Thanks. I'll have to save that one.

[dwc43]

Originally Posted by cageman

So that is two vacuum secodary carbs on a tunnel ram with NOS, is that a good idea?

Well it's two mech. carbs, but yes it's a good idea. Not the first one to use it either.

[cageman]

So you are saying that the thermoquad is a mechanical secondary, interesting.

[rumblefish360]

Yes, that is correct along with all Carter acrbs. The secondarys air vlave door above the secondary butterflies is the why it is refured to a vacuum secondary carb.

Once air velocity can over come the springs tention, the door opens. You can fine tune it very well by this method. (Spring operated door.)

Scroll down here to see the base throttle plate I posted.

Valiant64
Posted at the same time.... he he he

[valiant64]

the thermoquad has an adjustable secondary air valve.