Moparchat - Home of MOPAR enthusiasts worldwide!



Go Back   Moparchat - Home of MOPAR enthusiasts worldwide! > Technical Forums > Performance Talk

Click here to search for Mopar cars and parts for sale.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-20-2011, 09:04 PM
dougsoldcars dougsoldcars is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: sarasota, fl
Posts: 64
Default need help with plug wires

When setting the timing on my 408 stroker I heard what sounded like sparks going to ground. Tonight in the dark my concerns were confirmed. I have sparks from the plug boots to ground and arcing between some plug wires near the distributor and actually saw both the positive and negative pole of the coil dimly lit.

I have an MSD distributor, MSD Blaster coils and MSD wires. Seems to me the wires are a problem. I have a set of 8mm Taylor SST shielded High temp wires for one of my 350 Chevies. I wonder if I should try these.

Has anyone had success with a particular brand and diameter plug wire in this application?

Thanks for your help.
Doug
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-20-2011, 11:53 PM
coupe32's Avatar
coupe32 coupe32 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: newburgh in
Posts: 300
Default

I run a MSD ignition and a blaster coil and use Accel 10.8mm spiral wound wires with no problems. As long as the wires are spiral wound and have good insulation I think they should be okay.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-21-2011, 12:44 AM
440roadrunner 440roadrunner is offline
Inactive User
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: N Idaho
Posts: 831
Default

Sparking to ground like that almost ALWAYS indicates an open somewhere.

Imagine if you unhook just one spark plug. UNLIKE unplugging something from an electrical outlet--which maintains stable line voltage--the coil is "unloaded" by the unhooked wire (in this example) The unloaded plug tower now SOARS to a very high voltage, and this voltage starts looking for an easy path to ground--just like lightning.

I would get an ohmeter and check out all wires including the coil wire, and "shake" them when connected to the meter to look for big swings in resistance.

Also suspect stuff like a damaged rotor. There is a possibility you have some strange situation. There's been some discussion about "rotor phasing"

What this means is that something causes the points or pickup coil to trigger the coil when the rotor is NOT lined up with the cap tower contacts.

This in effect causes a huge spark gap inside the rotor--to plug tower area, and again, the coil voltage is way high, looking for a path.

Broken spark plugs can also cause this problem, as will ANYTHING that causes an open in the circuit path, all the way from the coil tower--to the cap--to the plugs.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-21-2011, 05:18 AM
mhenesian mhenesian is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Livermore/CA
Age: 73
Posts: 171
Default

Hi dougsoldcars,

Make sure the spark plugs are tight ! Sounds stupid, however, a loose plug will not "ground" the anode (the curved electrode), so the volts will build up to the limit of the ignition box (> 60 kV), causing the problems you mentioned. Plugs loosen up with time and get oil/fuel on the threads.

440roadrunner's explanation above is very accurate. He just forgot to mention the obvious problem. Also, its not a good idea to crank the motor with the ignition wire removed from the coil tower, or even disconnected from the distributor cap. You'll get arcing from the coil tower to the (+) or (-) connections and possible arcing between the connections. I've done it an I'm sure I reduced the lifetime of my new MSD Digital 6 boxes,

Mark
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-21-2011, 05:55 AM
cudabob496 cudabob496 is offline
Inactive User
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Richland, WA
Age: 71
Posts: 2,018
Default

Also, be careful, a kid in my neighborhood was working on his engine and the coil went to ground through him. He was hospitalized, then the next day he died from heart damage due to the current that went through his body.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Plug Wires stevekarlo Performance Talk 14 07-07-2011 11:17 PM
Plug Wires??? pv3277 Circle Track Chat 3 08-24-2005 01:32 PM
Plug Wires, Taylor,accel,magnecor,and Msd Wires. Which Is Better? Mopard Front Wheel Drive Chat 13 03-08-2003 01:00 AM
Which Plug Wires Are Best? Robbs Ram SST Ram Truck Chat 22 02-28-2001 07:24 PM
Which Plug wires??? BigBlueRam Ram Truck Chat 23 01-04-2001 02:08 PM




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:36 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
. . . . .