Bush or Gore?

[Mopargirl]

Who do you think is going to win the Election and why?

I personally think it's going to be Bush.

[V10nacuda]

I would have to say It had better be BUSH!!
If that LYING, tree hugging,chineese campaign contribution taking, fake kissing, 3 faced, double talking worthless piece of crap gets in I belive this country is in TROUBLE!!!!!! With him all of the panzie backsided liberals will ruin this counrty!!!!!!!!! The <SNIP> will be in the boyscout & NAMBLA will be the newest scout leaders... We stand a good chance of MORE gun legislation that affects the GOOD guys... Face it the Democrats don't think we can think for our selves & want to shove there ideas down your throat. (It takes a village to raise a child)Written by Hillary CLINTON!
GORE's book (Earth in the balance) wants to get rid of the internal combustion engine!!!!!! I don't know about you but I like my GUNS, & my gas guzzling CUDA' & V10 RAM!!!!
Just by the mere fact you fellas & ladies are on this board I would guess we at least share the love of cars, trucks & MOPARS!!!!
So I hope if you all like your rights that I think BUSH is the fella.

Just had to vent
V10

V10,

Please refrain from using derogitory names on the UBB. You never know who is lurking and posting. Thanks

MG

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[V10nacuda]

I don't want to sound like BUSH has all the answers because he doesen't but he is the best of two evils!!!
I for one wish Jessy the MIND VENTURA or Allen KEYS was a running mate of BUSH but ya can't have it all!!

[97DODGERAM318]

I know this might not be the best or the right place to post this but it's important to all of
us! Looking at both candidates for president I hope all know that Gore is for shutting
down and /or limiting some of the off-roading trails. Clinton has already close some in
his 8 years and Gore will follow in his steps. Now I'm all for protecting our lands from
abuse but most do respect and care for the trails we ride on by sticking to the marked
paths and NOT LITTERING. Another concern is gun control, don't buy the hype
Clinton/Gore is telling about their agenda. They want and will not quit until they
confiscate every gun in America. They are already on record as stating that the 2
Amendment doesn't apply to anyone but the military. Look at what has happen in other
countries that have went down the same path as Clinton/Gore are trying to lead us down.
And remember if let them take one away {THE RIGHT TO BARE ARMS} and what’s to
stop them from taking the next and the next. Remember that the 2 Amendment is there to
protect us all from home invasion to full scale country wide invasion from outside forces.
And also remember the 2 Amendment insures the protection of all the other
Amendments. I hope the political post doesn't offend anyone, that was not my intentions.

[Stoga]

Well, at least this post is in the right place, the other forums are for Mopar info. Myself, I remember the Bush recession, directly caused by Reagan quadrupling the deficit. It was the only time in my life I had EVER been on food stamps. If Bush Jr wins the election, I expect another recession, like father, like son, they say. And if you are against gun control, how could you forget the Columbine and other school gun disasters? I have school age children, and thinking about one of their schoolmates bringing daddy's weaponry to school just gives me the chills. Not controlling guns will just allow more of them to be in circulation, thus creating more crime and tragedy. If more gun owners had been responsible, there wouldn't have even been a need or call for gun control. Weapons are dangerous, we can't just let them lay around or be easy to get to. The path Clinton/Gore have led us down has led this country to the greatest economic expansion in the history of this country, and I just can't ignore that. And they even paid off a portion of the Reagan debt while they did it, Good job I say! Even if Mr Clinton did have a sexual affair, I'm not his wife, it's none of my business. Having the GOP spend well in excess of 70 million or more of US Taxpayer's money for their own personal witch hunt didn't set too well with me. What they did to President Clinton was like if they accused you of being a thief, then the only evidence they found was you went out on your wife, not hardly worth what they spent in my book. Besides, do we really want another Bush recession? I remember the last one well enough. Remember these GOP accomplishments? Teapot Dome Scandal, The Great Depression, the 58 Recession, Watergate and naturally, the insane deficit of the Reagan years. If you honestly expect me to vote for the son of a man who pulled back from victory in the Gulf War and led us into a recession, you're going to have to come up with better reasons then a sexual affair and gun control.

[V10nacuda]

STOGA WROTE:And if you are against gun control, how could you forget the Columbine and other school gun disasters? The only gun control we need is for the Dems to ENFORCE the gun control laws that are on the books & actually start using the DEATH PENALTY when one uses a gun to kill. Too many liberals think these worthless pieces of garbage can be rehabilatated, THEY CAN'T!! As far as columbine the guns didn't do the killing THE KIDS HOLDING THE GUNS DID!!!! That was a tragety!!!!! I believe that the parents are alot to blame because they don't & feel they can't dicipline there children because the Gov't wants to raise your child!!!! The School shootings: If you remember the one in EDINBORO PA the teacher shot at the school dance. I was there with in 1/2hr after it occurred & saw what it did to the kids & teachers!! But what the LIBERALS don't tell you is that a CITIZEN WITH A GUN POINTED AT THE USELESS PIECE OF GARBAGE THAT DID THE SHOOTING STOPPED THE ACTION!!!!!!!!The kid knew that if he continued he would be SHOT!!
Now if we subscribe to the liberal view that kid would have been able to keep on SHOOTING!!!! If you look at crimes comitted with a gun how many are actually of those were actually comitted by guns that were acquired legally, ALMOST NONE!!! So why penalize the law abiding citizens so crooks can run WILD!!!
If a kid wanted to kill he could drive his car into a crowd waiting for a bus!! Should we outlaw CARS?????

As far as the REGAN ERA, He got alot of problems from CARTER. The house during the REGAN era was I believe mostly DEM which caused some problems... CLINTON has ridden on the wave of REGAN'S governing, Slick WILLIE didn't do much other than help to RUIN the honor & status of president..

The next time your kid lies to you & get punished by you for it. What can you say if he replies "Dad our president lied & he didn't get in trouble & he lied to the AMERICAN PUBLIC"

MY
02 & then some!!

Thank's to this board for a place to vent & any of the above statments & further statements are not met to offend but are merely for discussion.



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[goldduster]

i hope it is bush, too. Gore's social security and medicare plans (the government provides it) is only gonna cost US middle class working men and women more money and we won't get a share of it.

Gore has multiple personality disorder...he says one thing at one time and then he finds out it's not the best thing and he changes.

Gore wants all of us to (if you have to have an internal-cumbustion engine) to have a 4cyl import econobox (like a civic) that gets 30+mpg and not drive our muscle cars. Anybody read the "The Future" series in Muscle Car Review? That thing is SCARY! Electric cars actually pollute more than internal combustion engines, belive it or not. you loose efficentcy between the first scorce and its use.

INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE
GAS-HEAT & MOVEMENT

ELECTRIC ENGINE
GAS-HEAT & ELECTRICITY-HEAT & MOVEMENT

see my point?

Gore did claim he invented the internet anyway (it's not actually an invention).

Bush isn't the greatest, but gore is a sucky fag.

[Thunderstruck]

Stoga, you need to pull your head out of the sand. I got out of the military exactly 9 days after the liar first swore in. I had no problems getting a job and I had a wife and two kids at the time. There mine have been some local problems where you were but not where I was, southern California. The was no national recession as defined by Websters.

You have fallen for the propaganda put forth by the liars in office. As for the rest of your comentary, it's equally inane. The problem is that this administration will not hold ANYONE liable for thier actions. They'd rather blame anything/anyone but the true culprit. A gun is no more deadly than a feather, BY ITSELF. Whereas a hammer can kill you just as dead. Think about that.

I live in Texas now, I used to live in California when I was in the military and my wife was born and raised in New York. I've seen enough liberal touchy feely crap to last a lifetime and then some. I'll call a spade a spade and if they don't like it I have no problems offering to step outside with them. Oddly enough, liberals won't "step outside" but they will cry like babies.

My definition of Liberals: What you are till you grow up.

Steve

[scredneck]

STOGA,
I'm not gonna rant on ya here b/c you DID manage to make ONE (although only one) statement in your post below that I do agree with.

"If more gun owners had been responsible, there wouldn't have been a need or call for gun control."

I agree.That is the very point of my argument.That being that there will always be those irresponsible idiots who don't give a rat about the consequences of their actions, no matter whether you talking guns or mopars.In each incident you mentioned, it was NEVER then gun itself that was at fault. No gun has ever pulled itself out of the cabinet, loaded itself, and pulled it own trigger.

That way of thinking is just another shining example of the desparaging low to which we, as a society, have allowed ourselves to sink.
Noone wants to take responsibility for their own actions.

In Columbine, just as in EVERY other crime that has EVER involved a firearm, the guilty party was the person pulling the trigger. NOT the gun itself. If we allow the gov't to take our guns, people will then resort to knives, clubs, sticks to kill each other when the make the decision to kill(and yes, it IS a decision that is made conciously). What then, do we then outlaw knives, clubs and sticks.

The REAL problem is not gun-control but CHILD-CONTROL. All of these social attrocities which have only come to the fore in recent years have done so directly due to a lack of parental involvement with the family, and the family's involvement in church.

It would be so simple to eliminate each and every one of these issues. All we have to do is to QUIT pointing fingers at each other and START pointing our faces to God.

I'm sorry, I guess I did rant on ya after I sd I wouldn't but once I start, I just can't stop.

no offense intended

[purplecam]

Hmm, seems to me it was the democRATic congress that sent all of those big, budget busting, spending bills to President Reagan. I also seem to remember the House banking scandal, and the House post office scandal, and it seems as if the democRATs were in control of those. President Bush went along with the democRATs on the tax increase, which caused a small blip on the economy. BTW, the economy was recovering before the '92 election, but the media didn't report it until after Clinton had won. There was no widespread recession during the Bush years. You've got it confused with the Carter years.
Like father, like son, you say? I guess Algore is either a segregationist or a racist, 'cause his daddy voted against all civil rights legislation, and actually introduced legislation trying to block it. If it hadn't been for the Republicans voting for the Civil Rights Act of 1964, it wouldn't have passed, because the democRATs couldn't pass it because so many of them voted against it. As far as the great depression, do you realize the democRATs would not help Hoover try to stop it? In fact Hoover proposed many of the things that the socialist FDR got established. Things like the CCC, and other government projects. The democRATic congress wouldn't pass the proposals. They just wanted to get FDR elected. Damn the country, let's elect one of our own. Kind of like Clinton/Gore not caring where the money to finance their campaigns comes from.

[Stoga]

Typical, blame that democratic congress and entirely over look the fact that Reagan signed EVERY single one of the bills during that era, he was the President, or was supposed to be. How about blaming the present GOP congress for the fact there is nothing preventing the HMO's from kicking patients into the streets. We would have had a national medical plan if not for them. But protecting rich boy interests is always first on the GOP agenda. They stopped the Clinton Health Plan, lots of profits protected that time, tough cookies for the poor folks. Oh, and it's a little early, but Gore is only 46 electoral votes away from relection at this point. So if you are positive it's going to be Bush, you may want to rethink that. Ram1500, I live in West Virginia, ask someone who lives here about infamou GOP governor Arch Moore and Buffalo Creek next time you say the GOP has the miner's best interest in mind, more like the mining companies. And all these speeches about rights taken away and police at your door was said before Clinton was elected. Gee, I wonder why that never happened? It must have been wrong. The simple truth is, the economy is in good shape right now, that is why Reagan was elected and relected, that is why Bush was elected, then later lost the election, despite presiding over the military that won the Gulf War, first time that has ever happened in fact. V10, ALL politicians are liars, just some are better then others. You can only judge them on results. And since President Clinton has been in office, I have never had to worry about paying bills again, because there is actually work for a mechanic like myself. Because there is actually work and opportunity for folks who make less then 100,000 dollars a year. As far as NAMBLA and gay boy scout leaders, I have no use for those people either, and blaming their actions on the president or just one political party is kind of blind, or do you really think there are no GOP gays or molesters? And while some folks bash Bill and Al for talking to the Chinese, how do you think Chinese Americans feel when they hear all this? Oh, like Reagan got problems from Carter, so did Carter get problems from Nixon-Ford. Like the problems Clinton cleaned up from Reagan-Bush. Don't ever forget, if George Sr was so great, Bill would have never been in office in the first place.

[69CORONET440]

If not guns then sticks then rocks then...PEOPLE PLAIN AND SIMPLE.REAGEN'S RECORD START TO FINISH SPEAKS FOR ITSELF,ARE YOU BRAVE ENOUGH TO SEE IT? CAN YOU SAY "PEANUTS"?!DO YOU REALLY THINK CLINTON/ALGORE HAVE DONE ANYTHING? NAME SOMETHING.LAST TIME I WENT TO KAISER I DIDN'T SEE ANYONE KICKED OUT IT THE STREETS.JUST WHAT WE NEED MORE DMV/USPS/IRS...WAKE UP NOW! WOW I MUST GO BURN SOME TIRE'S OFF WHILE I STILL CAN!AND PISS OFF ALL THE LIBS ON MY BLOCK LOL!!!!C YA

[Hoov]

Well Stoga, I am with you on this one. My life has been Hell when there is a GOP in office and when the Dems are in, I am actually able to save some of my paycheck. I won't get into the details of my life, but it does involve having and not having a job.

My personal feelings are that I could care less about gun control, I don't own one and never had a reason too. I guess I don't run into criminals that much as I guess other people do. If people want to keep one for protection or hunting that's OK, it's just not an issue with me.

My taxes have gone "down" the past 4 years. I compared past incomes in the same catagory and they were all lower. Every year was lower than the previous.

As far as lying to save one's ass from the ringer (if you can prove it), I have and I am sure I am not the only one.

The Democrats are not perfect and I do not agree with everything that they do, but I know that I and my family are better off when they are in office.

A great man once wrote: "We were lucky that when push came to shove, we had appealed to a Democratic administration that put people ahead of ideology. Democrats usually do. They deal with labor, they deal with people, they deal with jobs. Republicans deal with trickle-down theories of investment. But ever since coming to Chrysler, I've leaned toward the Democrats. Overall, I'm for the commonsense party, and when the chips are down, that's usually the Democrats." -Lee Iacocca






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[Mopargirl]

A reminder to everyone… This thread was created to hear people's opinions as to who they thought would make it into office next and why. Let's remember that everyone is entitled to his or her own opinions (regardless of how stupid we feel they are). Please do not turn this into a flame war. Lets keep it civilized.

Thank you!

M

[Mr Belvedere]

Well...I have no idea who will be our next President. All I know is that whomever it is...I'll be worried. This is the first Presidential election were I may actually have to abstain from (or write-in) voting...not only are Bush and Gore unworthy of the Presidency, but there isn't even a third party candidate that is worth voting for (Harry Browne probably the only decent one out of the bunch). And to all of you who preach about evil liberals and conservatives (or whatever other pigeon-holing label you use)...this isn't the NFL, it's not my team or no team...if you think that any one party has all (or at this point any) the right answers then I'm afraid that most likely you have a very closed mind, and all you seem to be capable of is spewing out the propoganda of your chosen team...instead of trying to figure out who will do the most good (or more likely, the least ill) to our nation. Well, Dennis Miller will probably be out of a job by November...maybe I'll write him in.

Jason

[Stoga]

Exactly Mr Belvedere! Voting is usually the picking of the lesser of two evils anyway. And after election day, it will be back to normal, after a fashion. And if one of my fellow Moparites, whether GOP, DEM or IND. needs my spare ballast resistor out of the glove box, I'll happily hand it to them! Whoever they vote for, or don't.

[Tim_K]

OK, time for the Tim_K opinion on these things.
I'm concerned that enough Republicans might go and vote for the 3rd party that Bush loses too many votes and Gore gets in.
I personally am somewhere between Republican and Independent. Definitely Conservative (E.I.B.)!
I don't know all that much about Bush, but Gore is a liar, he's been involved with Clinton for 8 years, he's against the internal combustion engine, and he'll do everything he can to make our hobby more difficult. If he actually did get elected and had any amount of success in banning internal combustion engines, or raising the CAFE mileage standards, <SNIP>
Stoga - as far as your gun comments go, I say "we don't need gun control, we need criminal control"! If there were no guns, criminals would find some other way to do what they wanted to.
If those teachers in Columbine were allowed to carry .45's, those 2 kids might not have made it as far as they did.
And as long as criminals know there might be a 12 gauge shotgun in the hands of the homeowner whose house they're trying to break into, they might go elsewhere.
The town of Kennesaw, Georgia has a law that every homeowner has to have a gun in the house, and guess what? Not much crime there.
If I remember correctly, Switzerland GIVES every homeowner an "assault rifle", ammunition, and training, and you don't hear of too many crimes in Switzerland, right?
I hope I made my point. Gun Control is a bad idea, will never work, and does not do what politicians say it will. Say they got their way, and no more guns were ever made. There are millions already out there. And you think criminals will turn them in just because there's a new law? HA! They're criminals because they BREAK LAWS!!!
Everyone has their right to their opinion, after all, that's what makes america great, and here's my opinion: Only an ignorant <SNIP>would NOT vote for BUSH

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[Stoga]

Well Tim, the way I look at it is this, no job, no hobby. When Bush Sr. was in office, I had a ratty Chrysler Newport 4 door I drove, had already sold my 70 Roadrunner and 64 Valiant convertible, because the economy was so bad, I had to feed my children somehow. Kids before cars, and guns, I would like to think. The US has been #1 in gun homicides and accidental shooting deaths for sometime, it may be a case where the cure is worse then the disease. I have no problem with responsible gun ownership, but when any street criminal can grab a weapon at a moment's notice, or children are shooting each other in classrooms, then we are all in danger.An overabundance of weapons easily available causes this. Arming everybody is a simplistic answer, all you're really doing is dumping gas on the flames. Think you'll always have the chance to grab your weapon? The only thing that bothers me is your comment about the weapon on a hill pointed at someone. We've already had that happen to us once successfully with President Kennedy, Is assasination really what we want? Ever notice that when an assasination is successful, it's always happens to a Democrat? It takes big money to off someone like a president, I figure. And while I have never been a Reagan fan, I was disgusted and dismayed when he was shot, he too, was our President after all. After the price increases of this summer, I am not too crazy about Bush and his buddies, the oil producers. Can't blame OPEC this time. High gas prices will drive a musclecar, Big Dodge Rams, and a lot of other vehicles off the road way faster then anything Gore can be accused of plotting or doing. The only reason I vote Democrat is this, when I get to check my budget, I have a lot more money left over to spend on myself and my family, way more then I ever had under ANY GOP administration. Feeding the kids comes first, then paying the bills. If I was a rich man, looking for a tax break, I'd might vote GOP. But I'm not, so there it is. PS: There isn't a non Mopar vehicle on my property anywhere, so don't get insulting and call me a Phord, GarbageMotors or Import owner, I don't drive trash.

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[Hoov]

Tim you were doing great on your opinion, until you got to the last part. Stoga and I have just about the same reason for the way we vote. We have come from different situations in life than some others is why we vote Democrat. I don't mind the phord or jap comment, but the "fool" was a little much.

[SUN RA KAT]

I go along with Stoga (except I inherited a '78 Chevy Caprice Classic with 63,000 miles on it. When my mom bought it new she was very disappointed it wasn't as fast as her '71 Duster 340).
Probably more important than who gets elected is who is putting big donations in both political parties' campaign funds. The special interest groups that contribute heavily to both parties are the real power in this country. They win no matter who wins. And we loose.

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2000 Intense Blue Ram 1500 Quad Cab Sport SLT+, 5.9 L, Auto, 3.55 Sure Grip, Service Group (big battery, transmission oil cooler, & heavy-duty engine cooling), MOPAR tonneau, MOPAR bedliner, MOPAR Ram mudflaps, MOPAR side moldings, Flowmaster 50-series SUV muffler with heat shield, JBA silver ceramic coated headers, Quick D throttle body, K&N Gen II FIPK, MOPAR PCM, 180 degree thermostat, R/T Cam Package (cam & lifters), new valve springs & retainers, and new timing chain, and sometimes a full tank of premium gas.

Did I mention it was INTENSE BLUE?

[WEDGEMAN3]

I am not going to direct my response to any one person.We are all entitled to our own opinion and thats what makes a forum like this one so enjoyable(VARIETY),but....,what we are talking about here is something that concerns us all in a most critical manner,if we choose to acknowledge it or not.Politics is something that can make enemys out of friends.It can divide familys.It can and very well may someday tear this great country of ours apart.That frightens me!!!
What Iam about to say may not be P.C. Im not as current on all the issues as I should be.Which is probably about the norm for everyone,but here goes.
First of all,I agree 100%with Stoga on the Clinton affair subject.How many other Presidents did more than just smell the roses and nobody gave it a second thought.You can only beat a dead horse for so long,and I believe much to much was made of our Presidents indescretions and not enough has been said of his obvious and plentiful contributions to the people of the United States. It amazes me to hear so many people say"I didnt vote for that S.O.B. In all honesty a major portion of you are LIARS.You did vote for him or he wouldnt have been elected.People in this country need to stop eating all the crap we get fed daily by the media and the people who exploit that venue for their own personal benifit!

I dont believe in gun control,but we are in the midst of a major crisis.
I dont believe in same-sex marraiges !!!
I dont believe in abortion...,but I do believe that their are special circumstances that may make it nessecary.
I believe that our governments(state & federal) are worrying way to much about the rights of non-citizens(undocumented Aliens)while turning a deaf ear to the housing and unemployment problems that legitmate citizens are expieriencing.
I believe we all need to spend a little more time thinking about how lucky we are to be living in this GREAT country of ours.(Take a look at some international news.)

I believe its time for me to get off of this rant!
Bush or Gore??? Get informed,theres still time!!

One last comment...,The Sniper Rifle remark was absolutely out of line (no-matter who it was implied for)It shows Zero class!! FACT!!!
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[Mopargirl]

I believe that our governments(state & federal) are worrying way to much about the rights of non-citizens(undocumented Aliens)while turning a deaf ear to the housing and unemployment problems that legitmate citizens are expieriencing.
I believe we all need to spend a little more time thinking about how lucky we are to be living in this GREAT country of ours.(Take a look at some international news.)

I could not have said it better myself.

[Tim_K]

Wow, what a volatile subject we have here. I'm surprised it hasn't been locked out by now.
The 'fool' comment may have been a little much, but you should have seen what I had written before I decided to go back and de-tune it.
Politics can indeed make enemies out of friends and families and so forth. I live in a small town (3000-4000 people) which consists mostly of: 40% old retired people, 40% blue collar steelworkers and other labor type jobs, 20% miscellaneous, enough professional people to run the businesses. I know of a few people who will openly admit they are Republican, other than myself. Many times I've heard people talking about elections, and they usually are so one-sided in favor of the Democrat that I don't even try to get involved.
This is a Democrat town, and is also a big Phord and Shivvy town, too. I can honestly say, without reservation or fear of accusations of self-aggrandizement, that I am the leading die-hard Mopar fanatic in this area. And, I'm likely to be in the top 10 in SW PA.
I may not always have time to grab a weapon, but at least I'll HAVE IT.
The presidents we have had lately might have been better if not for the special interest groups. They seem to be pretty good at making the politicians think they can seriously affect the outcome of an election.

[Marc]

Well. I'm a CANADIAN so my opinion doesn't matter, but...

I don't like anything about Gore. I think he's a butt licking politician who says what he thinks others want to hear.
He was vice president to one of the biggest all-time LIARS there ever was in office, and they brought DISGRACE back to the White House.
Coincidences may be the core of the reason some people did better under certain parties being in office, and I think it's a ridiculous reason for voting for someone in this election. It's like Sean voting alphabetically on Survivor.....
I hope Bush gets in. It would restore some credibility in the eyes of some of us up north..?

[WEDGEMAN3]

Hmmmmm......,well lets see......Butt lickin Politician. Hey Marc ...,are you up on your American history. Lets see...,Do you remember a guy named OLIVER NORTH who was doing dirty deeds for which Presidential Administration???.....Oh ..now I remember.Wasnt George Bush a member of that Administration. WOW Marc !!! guess what??? Thats the Daddy of the guy who is the Republican Presidential Candidate!!!...,but I bet you already knew that didnt you Marc?
Lets see,...how does it go again?? Disgrace to the Whitehouse.(yep)Butt lickin Politician who says what he thinks the people want to hear.(yep)Lets see if I can make a buck off this war.(YEP) So Marc...,since you seem to know so much about what we should do down here ....should we believe this guy is any different than his Daddy???You know the old saying?
Who do you think George Jr. is going to for advice....?!?!(YEP)
BUTT LICKIN POLITICIAN INDEED!!!!


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[DFA]

Whoa.....
Wedgeman, Marc is entitled to his opinion, just like anyone else here... no need to get offensive...

I honestly find this thread a very interesting read. I've been keeping up on it, but haven't posted yet. I haven't posted, because I honestly am not sure who I'm going to vote for. I will vote for who I think is the lesser of the 2 evils. I was somewhat shocked by the comment about our governments needing to focus less on the rights of immagrants... I couldn't agree more, and to be honest, it hits somewhat close to home. My sister has been on welfare, and is going back on, as she is between jobs at the moment... it is rather disturbing how hard it is for a single white female mother to get welfare when you compare that to a family of illegal aliens. But, that's not what this thread is about, so I'll quite there. The Sniper comment was completely un-called for. I will admit, there are a few people in this world who don't deserve to live. But suggesting something as assassination un called for. its called murder. I know the person who said it more than likely won't act on it, but the fact that it was mentioned is disturbing enough.

Onto the gun control issue. Here, as with the rest of this post, I am merely stating my opinion. I believe gun control is partially necessary. I say partially, because I don't believe guns should be abolished. I believe guns should be registered, and the type of guns available to the general public should be regulated. Shooting can and is a sport. Hunting is a necesity for survival. The problem does not lie in the fact that guns are available to the general public. I believe the problem lies in irresposibility of human beings. Parents are not raising their children to know right from wrong, to take responsibility for their actions. Parent's themselves are not being responsible enough to keep guns away from the children, and when the time comes, providing the proper training on how to safely use guns. If such things were done rigerously, I believe we could start to see some improvements in a number of different aspects of this society. Ranging from crime, to family values, to government integrity.

Just a personal opinion. Hope I haven't offended anyone

Cheers,
DFA

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[WEDGEMAN3]

DFA...,True .My response was a tad bit hostile.Yes,Marc is entitled to his opinion,And I would be the last to try and deny him that right.
Politicians are Politicians and they will forever be saying what the people want to hear!!Thats how they get elected.(Sad but True)I, as well as Im sure millions in this country have to make a decision on which Politician we want to run our country for the next Four years.Its not an easy decision to make,but one that has to be made none the less.

Marc ..,Politicians are like Apples and Oranges...pretty much all the same. The only problem is we get to eat our choice for the next four years.
Clinton did digrace the WhiteHouse...But it hardly measures up to the Shinanagins in which Mr.Bush was a part of.

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[Marc]

I don't think getting gobble jobs by interns equates well with what Bush Sr. did.
I don't recall Bush Sr. blatantly lying to the public with an absolute statement the way Clinton did.
I didn't know that because YOU dislike the way a person runs a country YOU can prejudge the job his SON does. Isn't that called.....
PREJUDICE?
To....pre...judge?

Gore is weak on issues and high on spin polish, like the man he's been beside for 8 years. At least Clinton was an OK president in some respects. Gore makes POTATOE sound good.

And, EVERYONE can express their opinions, in any way they like. It won't offend me in any way, shape or form.

[Marc]

Oh, and wedgeman,
Any idea what Gore's father's past holds?

[V10nacuda]

WOW,
I'm glad Marc chimed in. It's interesting to see what people out side of this country think of some of our political shenangans.
How do the peple up there view CLINTON lying to the american people on ANY ISSUE or event??????

I think we all agree that this election is which is the best of two evils right????

One last note I interview ALOT of people, & GORE's body language SCREAMS LIAR!!!! Where as BUSH just yells slightly!!!

One last comment LET's PLAY NICE FELLAS opinions are good but insults SUCK!!

V10