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Old 06-23-2002, 03:21 PM
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Idea Sweet Mfg power str bracket ?

I want to put a Sweet pump on my small block, but where do I get a bracket for this application. All I can find is chevy and ford brackets, Someone must run this combo out there.
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Old 06-23-2002, 10:18 PM
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Default Bracket Problems

Well, Cageman, I had the same question several months ago, and Sanborn made me a pattern of his. I had one made. It wasn't cheap, but it works like a charm.
The reason you didn't find one, is that they don't mass produce one commercially. I can copy my pattern and send you what Sanborn sent me if you wish. Just let me know. Hope this helps, and.......................See ya at the track!!
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Old 06-24-2002, 04:42 AM
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Yeah that would be great, You are a lifesaver, oh the time I'll save making my own pattern and converting it to the computer and cutting it out. How thick is the aluminum that you used for the bracket and where will it mount to on the block, head or timing cover, just curious.
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Old 06-24-2002, 07:59 AM
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Good Morning! The bracket is made of 1/4" aluminum and was fabricated using the latest in technology-HPSS(I will be glad to send the program). It mounts between the water pump and timing cover. I did add a 1/4" aluminum brace behind the mount to prevent flex.
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Old 06-24-2002, 08:30 AM
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Forgot to add:
HPSS-Hand Powered Sabre Saw

We also use such Hi Tech devices as SAMM(Swing Arm Milling Machine-Grinder) and BFW(Blue Flame Wrench-Cutting Torch). Then there's the old favorite-Hammer, Bigger Hammer and the ultimate; 3 pound Sledge Hammer.
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Old 06-24-2002, 04:42 PM
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I have a buddy with a water jet that uses water to cut through anything, and I thought it would have to be made out of 1/2 inch aluminum, I can handle 1/4 inch by my self though, we'll see I guess. When I fab something myself it is usually a little off the first time and it works fine till I get to the track, then after bragging to my fellow racers about how I made it, it goes haywire with all their eyes on me.
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Old 06-25-2002, 10:50 AM
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Idea Sounds like me!

Cageman, Thats exactly what happens every time I make a sophisticated part for my race car with my hammer ,torch and chop saw. All I have to do is say something like "this will work better" , and it's doomed to break or some other tradgedy will befall my invention. My wife has gotten real good at rolling her eyes at my mention of a new idea, . Now I've gotten used to religating my parts and idea to the barn, don't tell anybody about it until it works or fails at the track. And you thought us old guys aren't smart?? 'the old man'
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Old 06-25-2002, 07:41 PM
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we bought a bracket from racemate to solve our problems uses two water pump mounting bolts and one head bolt may require some shiming
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Old 06-25-2002, 11:34 PM
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Hey cageman, email me at modracr41@hotmail.com and give me an address to send the pattern to. I'll have it out to you this weekend. Sanborn has all the dimensions, instructions, and mounting locations on the pattern.
This bracket goes between the pump and timing chain cover. It works like a charm. Let me know, good luck, and ................See ya at the track!!
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Old 06-26-2002, 12:35 AM
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So when you say it goes between the pump and timing cover, wouldnt that space the pump out a 1/4 inch, or do you mill off the pnmp or cover, or am I just not understanding how it works.
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Old 06-26-2002, 12:44 AM
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Mill 1/4" off the timing cover.
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Old 06-26-2002, 01:07 AM
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Thats what I thought. I cant wait for the plans to do this.
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Old 06-26-2002, 07:47 AM
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Cageman, while you have the timing cover off, make a cooling modification to the timing cover. Measure the gap from the water pump impeller to the timing cover. Make a round aluminum disc about the size of the impeller and TIG weld the disc to the timing cover. Usually 1/4" aluminum is about right. This disc takes up space between the impeller and timing cover and helps reduce water pump cavitation at higher RPMs. I usually try to get the gap around .060".
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Old 06-26-2002, 08:02 PM
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Bill Richardson at RAM Automotive used to have the brackets you need. He sold them for $50 I believe. His # is 804-846-0043
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Old 06-27-2002, 12:52 AM
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I took my pump and visualized where it will go and that is exactly where it needs to be, Ill do that little weld job like you said and Im also welding the bypass hose shut and the heater hose deal to. I have cheasy plugs on them now and I might as well do that while its off.
If I made the bracket a 1/2 inch would that be a problem. Ill just mill off a 1/2 inch out of the cover instead. SOME IS GOOD MORE IS BETTER

There I go reinventing the bracket again
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Old 06-27-2002, 08:01 PM
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I don't think you would have a problem, but if you make it out of strong aluminum and tig weld the brace to the back, it is way more than sufficient. I thought like you, until I got it back, and there isn't any way that it's going to flex. It's really rigid at 1/4". Just my opinion and .....................See ya at the track!!
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Old 07-07-2002, 04:43 AM
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Waiting Waiting
I want to race
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Old 07-08-2002, 12:47 AM
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Cageman, I'm sorry it's taken me so long to get that to you, but I've been out of town for work. I'm a plant trainer for GM and this has been the last week of the '02 models so lots of work. I'll be home this week, so I'll get it out to you. Sorry for the delay and ............See ya at the track!!
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Old 07-10-2002, 05:39 PM
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Iam wondering if it is in the mail yet, I am going to have to try running the stock pump for this weeks racin but I want to change it asap. thanks
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Old 07-10-2002, 05:59 PM
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Thumbs up timing cover mod

Hey Sanborn; I thought the spacer on the timing case cover is/ was a GREAT IDEA. damn simple and makes sense. Thanks I will use that one....
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Old 07-13-2002, 10:02 AM
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Cageman,
The pattern is on the way. Sorry for the delay. Hope it helps, good luck, and ........................See ya at the track!!
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