Holley 670 Street Avenger

[76Duster]

Anyone tried the Holley 670 Street avenger? Was thinking of one for my 71' 340 with LD340 intake, Mopar 284/484 cam, msd 6al, and Hooker Headers. A demon would be nice but out of my price range.

[Fury Boy]

I got one, but I haven't done ANY tuning to it yet, so I don't knoe about power potential...

[ehostler]

The appropriate Demon won't even cost you $50 more than the Avenger.

I honestly would get with Don (cuda66273) and see what he can do for you.

Don't forget about all of the post sales support that Don will give you, as well. That alone is more than worht the couple of extra dollars.

[rumblefish360]

I agree with the Demon being better. But if the Holley is out of your range, the Demon will be. Is a Carter out of the question?

[76Duster]

My brother can get me the Holley for 450 bucks Canadian through the speed shop his parts department deals with. Even with the Canadian dollar being up to like 72 cents U.S, the shipping and then the duty that gets charged to come across the border is insane.... free trade? where?! Not to mention UPS rapes me for a brokerage fee for customs that usually costs more then the damn shipping did to start with. How much performance am I actully going to make over the Holley? The other thing I look at is time. I'd like to drive the car soon and the Holley 1850 on the car is most likely older then me and junk. Nothing against carters either. I wouldnt mind getting a thermoquad all dialed in but I dont feel like cutting open my LD340 to put a spread bore on.

[ehostler]

Please talk to Don (cuda66273) before you go spending that kind of money on a Holley. I'm sure that he can use other shippers, if needed. As he does a lot of setup on the carb, before he sends it, it is not subject to the normall "NEW" parts duty/customs fees.

[ehostler]

ODFL is normally pretty good with shipping. It can also be shipped via mail service, for a lot less than what UPS is doing.

[76Duster]

Where do I get ahold of him at?

[cuda66273]

Before you invest..investigate...at least give me an opportunity to quote you a delivered price on a Demon.

Cheaper is not always better......but if you want cheap...I have 5 Eddy's here for sale...2 of them are less than 2 weeks old.

All were switched for Demons on everything from Sportsman cars to Tow vehicles.

So if price is the only thing your looking at...We have the solution.

You will get exactly what you pay for....

[littlecampbell]

Don sent me up a used air gap intake awhile ago. The declared value for customs was $45.00. This was sent by AirBorne Express and delivered by Purolator currier. Duty was $5.50 and taxes were $8.93. ....For used auto parts????....What a pile of bull...I aint payin.

[ehostler]

Originally posted by 76Duster
Where do I get ahold of him at?

First off, don't get me wrong. I do understand about tight budgets (I'm there right now). It's just that I think Don can probably come in close on the numbers with a superior product. It doesn't hurt to see what kind of pricing Don can get for you and then followup with customs, to see what the duty fees are going to be.

Along with the declared value, make sure that it is clearly declared as a used part in a previously opened package (I know that makes a difference in some countries).

Don can be reached via email at bigdaddy@4secondsflat.com and his website is http://www.4secondsflat.com

[rumblefish360]

LOL @ Don True. I wouldn't want to cut up an intake to save money on the car ethier. But a Carter square bore bolts on. It doesn't have the Demons power, but is close to a Holley. Actually, more of a trade of. The Carters seem to favor low end torque over the Holleys top end horse.
Tuneing them is very easy, but harder to dail in perfect.
The Carter also dosen't have a 4 corner idle system for larger cams like a Holley can have. (Not all Holleys have this abilty)

If your not looking for all out, or absoulute perfection, a Carter is a forgivable carb , easy to work on and @ $275 for the Edel. taged unit, it's not to bad. $199 for the rebuilt via Summit.
The Holley 4160 is $265. (Electric choke version)
The 4150 is $395. (Non elect. choke)
The Speed Demon in Summit is $400 and electric choke is $439.
All 750's.
Price goes up with performance as normal.
Like Don said, ya get what you pay for.
Talk with Don. He could help you out.

[BakedMopar]

You will get exactly what you pay for....

I am a strong believer in this. Just to let you know I have tried all of the carbs metioned above. With the eddy I could never get that thing tuned. With the Holley I had more drivability but performance took alot of time for tuning. Demon ( borrowed hope cuda can hook me up as soon as funds let me) drivability was even better and performance beat the holley from base line. Moral of the story is you get what you pay for and even though you'll save some money on the initial buy to get maximum performance you'll end up spending the same amount of money as the Demon. Plus Don goes through the carb and sets it up with the right power valves and jets ( I believe) so you don't have to dish out more cash.

This is just my opinion though..

[dkn1997]

Isn't dave571 an fbo systems dealer in canada? maybe save some $ that way....

[76Duster]

Ok I e-mailed Don and just waiting to see his thoughts and opinions. I have NOTHING against a Demon just always thought it was a richmans carb. Just a poor apprentice here. But if it comes in pretty close to the Holley then I can think about it much more seriously.

[dkn1997]

those street avenger series carbs are expensive carbs. A demon should come in close.

[76Duster]

Ok the Avenger is 450 bucks for those who didn't see and the Demon comes in a $605.25Canadian plus whatever shipping is gonna be. I need to here more from Don about this thing before I can justify that kinda cash on my nearly non-existant budget.

[cuda66273]

I can't say much more than has already been stated.....I'm sorry about your budget but I need to feed the Red Dog, the Red Head and the Red Fish so I can't afford to give you one for free....

Dave is now set up to sell Demons to you in Canada

Daves Mopars

[ehostler]

When money is tight, sometimes you have to do what you have to do, to get the beast up and running.

Although the Avenger isn't as good as the Demon, I'm sure that once you have it tuned properly, you will be happy with it.

[345Dart]

For what its worth, I just took off my 340 a nearly new Holley 750v model 3310 with vacuum sec. spring kit and replaced with a 750 Speed Demon when I made some other changes. If you don't end up with a Demon, I'll give you a deal on the Holley. email: Ritwaylg@hotmail.com Calgary and Hinton are not very far apart.

[71383bee]

I have a brand new 770 Street Avenger with less than 200 miles on it that I am willing to sell for a demon. Email me if you are seriously interested at wi71383bee@yahoo.com Hell i still have the box and the packing tags. It is a good carb, it starts great and idles nice. I haven't been able to get on it because I am babying the motor till about 500 miles because it is a fresh rebuild.

I would keep it, but cuda has got the demon siren song playing in my head!

[ehostler]

Originally posted by 71383bee
I would keep it, but cuda has got the demon siren song playing in my head!

Better be careful... Siren songs have caused many sailors to crash into the rocks...

[76Duster]

I'm not asking for it for free, I just wanna know something about it! $600 bucks is a pretty penny and its not that its an insane price I just don't know much about the Demon. Basically I want the big sales pitch. What makes the demon so great? Not that I doubt it is but I don't buy things I don't know about... School me a bit

[71383bee]

Well to put it simply it is a tricked out polished Holley. For years Barry Grant was in the business oftaking holleys and improving on the design and super tuning. Eventually he started his own business and began his own line of carbs. Cuda and others can fill you in with the technical details, but if you lay one next too each other they look basically the same, but when you closely inspect them the Demon is a smoother flowing design.

[76Duster]

anyone else?

[76Duster]

Cuda? I e-mailed you just waiting a reply.

[BIG BLOCK BILL]

Maybe I'm missing something here , but the difference between the avenger and a comperable speed demon is like 30 bucks in the summit catalog . I don't know how wild your combo is , but did you consider a road demon jr. ? Bill

[littlecampbell]

Corey, I found a used 750AFB for $150. Got a rebuild kit with everything including instructions a chimp could follow(and did). Right now I'm very happy with it. I think a 750 might be a little overkill for your auto though? The AFB will do just fine till I can afford a Demon. Just my 2 cents.

[76Duster]

I'm at like the 99% sure of going for the Demon right now actully campbell. For me from a Holley to the demon theres about a 50 dollar price difference once I figure GST into the Holley price. The car has had soooooo many problems with it I'd rather not have tuneing the carb in as one of them. I actully left Sheldon a nasty e-mail. All the work he did on the car was just thrown together. I mean if he didn't want to do it then say so. But he did offer. I don't mind fixing broken worn out 30year old stuff but fixing someone elses poor repair jobs pisses me off because its always twice as much work. Got my new carpet it. Wasn't happy about the rear driver floor been full off pinholes and some slightly larger. The trunk pan he didn't bother to weld in under the rear trunk lach section so I have a huge hole to fix. The heater box was broken in weny places and patched with sheetmetal and was missing the blend door. The heater core tubes fell off when touched too. Figured out why my steering column was so damn sloppy too. There was no spring on the two shoes inside!On the plus side it was an original bucket seat car, why someone would have put a bench in is anyones guess. Anyways thats my rant!

[Mr.Mopar]

76 duster, I had bought a reman. 3310 750 vac. secondary this winter and got it for $300.00. I put on an electric choke and an adjustable vac sec. spring kit. It rounds out to about $400.00 CDN and I really like the way it runs on my Dart. I don't know who your connections are but this could be an alternative. You could stay with the manual choke and factory secondary spring set up and save some bucks. So far everything works o.k. for me. Of course the Demon is better but we are all on a budget these days and across the border shopping is expensive. Talk to Dave @ Daves Mopar Specialties or dave571 here on the board.