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Old 07-23-2003, 09:03 PM
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Default Pinion Snubber space on daily driver

How much space should there be between the floor and the pinion snubber on a daily driven vehicle. I have some real wheel hop since changing axles, and the only thing that appears to have changed is the pinion snubber spacing.

Also does the mopar adjustable snubber with the 8 1/4" as well as the 8 3/4" diff.

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Old 07-23-2003, 10:27 PM
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how old/used are the springs that are on the car now?
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Old 07-24-2003, 05:01 PM
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about 4yr old springs with a new leaf added about 6 months ago
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Old 07-24-2003, 05:09 PM
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For race 0 to 1/2 inch for street 1 inch or more. My snubbers have 4 bolt holes and will mount on both 8 1/4 and 3/4.
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Old 07-28-2003, 09:01 AM
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for street 1 inch or more.
how much more then an inch, how much is too much?

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My snubbers have 4 bolt holes and will mount on both 8 1/4 and 3/4.
Which snubbers are these, homemade?

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Old 07-28-2003, 10:46 AM
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My snubber was from mopar performance and it needs to be an inch or more so long as it does not hit the floor boars while driving normal through town hitting pot holes and such.
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Old 07-28-2003, 04:03 PM
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have you ever thought of eliminating the need for the snubber TOTALLY ??....... a P S is a band-aid for the lack of proper equipment on your vehicle.
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Mr. Fiberglass; What is the proper equipment? Thanks
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Old 07-28-2003, 07:40 PM
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rs ............proper equipment is either a good set of homemade or store-bought SS springs.

It is JUST that simple.

Traction bars and P S's "help" eliminate wheel hop or spring wrap-up.........but they do not prevent it. IN FACT - TBs do a better job OF the two choices.......the PS can even cause the car to severely bounce as the snubber slaps/hits the floor.

To ELIMINATE those problems you need a good set of springs with a stiff/strong front segment
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Old 07-28-2003, 10:22 PM
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There is a time and place for everything.

A pinion snubber is fine on a daily driver that sees some strip time. SS springs give a harsh ride on a daily driver.

I had a 383 that would bark the tires when going into 4th. I used a pinion snubber on that car. The snubber was adjusted for no more than ΒΌ" inch of space. The rear of my car NEVER "severely bounced". Heck it didn't even have a minor bounce.

Now then, if you are talking a 12.99 car, yeah, a snubber would probably cause some problems. But, we are talking a daily driver.

for my applications, I would go with CalTracs or the CE Slide-A-Link, before I ever thought about SS springs
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Old 07-29-2003, 01:23 AM
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i have my ps adjusted to graze the floor and it made my driver go straight and hook much better. i needed to cut about an inch off the top and bottom of the two pieces to make it work with my ride height.
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.487 spacing ...unless you need to transport my X-wife #2 in which case you'll need 2.452 and 3 extra leafs under it.....


Wheel hop is spring wind...stop the spring wind and it'll go away...did you add spacers by any chance?
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Old 07-29-2003, 04:34 PM
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The other day while cruising, a greaser in a Harley pulled up beside me and revved up (we were both going about 35mph) so I revved the Dart up and dumped it into second and booted it a bit. Instant wheel hop. Thats the first time its done that. Usually it'll chirp and go or spin. PS or springs? Never does this when launching and going through the gears. On the back roads of course!
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try rhe cheap tricks first

I believe it was rumblefish that told me to clamp the leafs togrther in front of the axle and unclamp them behind the axle. I recently did this on my car and it seem to help alot.

Oh by the way, for everyone to know, I have finally dropped the rear end of the 5th Ave "sleeper" back to almost original hieght. 235/60-15 now fill the wheel wells. pics to come soon.
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Heard some really bad things about SS springs lately. Seems that MAMOPAR has been skimpin on them lately. Experts (full fledged mopar speed shops) have warned me to stay away from them. They can't even seem to hold up the weight of the car. Appear to be some kind of recall or something like that...

Experts said they have had good luck with Landrum springs in Georgia. I am going to give them a call Tomorrow...

My HD hemi srings(2 years old) Are twistin like a pretzel. Watched my buddy drive my car the other day and never seen a car squat as bad as that before. Really bad on the passenger side...

SEE What turbo power will do forya.

72 cuda..streetcar..3.21 gears smallblock...130mph trapspeeds. OH yea its got turbo power.
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5th.........clamping is a good start and a bunch better than a snubber hitting the floor and then forcing the car UP.

I have also heard of quality issues with some of the suppliers. The BEST springs came from Cleveland way back when THEN they came from Canada for a long time. NOW(at least up until 2 or so years ago) - I think that they were coming from Mexico. AND the quality of the steel was a little lacking.
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Dumb question but how does spring clamping work, do you just clamp down 3 u bolts on each spring and your done?

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Clamping the front segment does a good job of helping eliminate the spring wrap-up and distortion that causes wheel hop and the need for a pinion snubber. And leave the rear segment uNclamped...........doing this will allow the spring action to PLANT the rear tires.

I have done this a couple of times.......get another complete spring assembly for your car from a JY. USE the main leaf with the rear eyes cut off with your other leafs.

And you can re-arch them(mildly) with a 20lb sledge-hammer.
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And you can re-arch them(mildly) with a 20lb sledge-hammer.
hehe sorry but that sounds fun...my luck the hammer go -boing- and smack me in the forehead...
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hehe sorry but that sounds fun...my luck the hammer go -boing- and smack me in the forehead...
Now THAT would hurt.....but you can also do it with a bottle jack tooooo !
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