Moparchat - Home of MOPAR enthusiasts worldwide!



Go Back   Moparchat - Home of MOPAR enthusiasts worldwide! > Technical Forums > Performance Talk

Click here to search for Mopar cars and parts for sale.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-13-2003, 10:33 PM
cap14u cap14u is offline
Inactive User
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: brooklyn, NY
Posts: 13
Help carb help

I have 1406 edelbrock. its only a year old. The other day it started running really bad after i played with the mixture. i later learned i had it way way to rich. Now it idling horribly and stalls out if i dont keep my foot on the gas. Its leaking gas out the passenger side if the carb. Ive been reading through the archives and i think it has to do with the float maybe being stuck?? CAn i unstick it some how?? I have since put the mixture back to where it originally ran decent. Are there parts i will have to replace or do i just reset it some how?
any ideas?
mark
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-13-2003, 11:17 PM
ehostler's Avatar
ehostler ehostler is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Annandale, VA
Age: 57
Posts: 15,212
Default

smack it on the top with a rubber mallet. that should free the float, if it is actually stuck.

From what I've been reading (in the past) those carbs are prone to cracking and leaking fuel straight into the engine.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-13-2003, 11:22 PM
WFish's Avatar
WFish WFish is offline
Inactive User
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Englewood/Florida
Posts: 164
Default

I had one once that started leaking fuel from every vacum port and evey other place you could imagine after only to weeks of use. I got great gas mileage until that happend though.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-15-2003, 10:10 AM
MY340's Avatar
MY340 MY340 is offline
Inactive User
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: washington, missouri
Posts: 437
Smile

You can also disconnect the linkages and take the 8 or 10 top screws out to get to the floats. Just lift off carefully without tearing the gasket which can be reused. The floats should hang freely and check their adjustment per Edelbrock specs.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-15-2003, 11:15 AM
cuda66273's Avatar
cuda66273 cuda66273 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Beaverton Oregon
Age: 71
Posts: 3,685
Default

Another well spent $269.00.

Put it on Ebay sell it to some Fird Guy with a 68 Rustang and buy a carb that really works.

It's just Un-American to use a 1/2 a$$ed carb on a Full A$$ed Mopar...LOL
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-15-2003, 02:48 PM
70Ted 70Ted is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: upstate ny
Age: 61
Posts: 1,647
Default

i guess my eldlebrock that works on my 360 can't?
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-16-2003, 10:10 PM
mtrv8n mtrv8n is offline
Inactive User
 
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: new york city
Posts: 904
Default

get a rebuild kit and tear it apart. The kit only has about 30 parts, all that can go wrong with an edelbrock. Take you maybe an hour to do the whole thing. You need the right tools, tork set n such, but it's real easy.

It comes with a set of viton tip float jets, and all the gaskets. You probably have a stuck float, is all.

I have heard guys here swear by their Holley's and Holley based carbs, but for daily driver use I find THEY LEAK!

Ok, not at first, but after a cold snap...and the weather here in NYC changes a lot. I thought I had a problem with my Eddy last year, turned out to be a bad ignition module..the Eddy was fine.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-17-2003, 05:30 PM
ohioDemon ohioDemon is offline
This account disabled due to bad email address!
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: wilmington ohio usa
Posts: 351
Default

bottom line, i had one edelbrock carb. i found out it was one too many !!

get a holley on that motor !
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 08-19-2003, 01:14 AM
cuda66273's Avatar
cuda66273 cuda66273 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Beaverton Oregon
Age: 71
Posts: 3,685
Default Entertainment value

"45 RPM records are the greatest thing since they put pull tabs on the milk bottle caps". ...Elvis

"The world is flat and if your brakes fail you go right off the end of the track and into space."...my Dad told me this when I was 3.

"A steel boat will never float."..the Confederate Navy

"Thrashing your arms and legs will scare off sharks"....Survival Training Officer of the USS Indianapolis

August 5th 1945, Tokyo News "We are about to defeat the Americans and Japan is near Victory!!!"........
"Little Boy" was dropped on Hiroshima by the Enola Gay, a Boeing B-29 bomber, at 8:15 in the morning of August 6, 1945.


"Bolts right in".....Smumit Jigs Dougy's

"My CnC billet machined main body and billet metering blocks leaked and I know how to tighten a float bowl, been using the same 3/4" drive breaker bar for years."..Bubba

"My Edelbrock works great"....Those who have never had a real modular carb or have no tuning ability and can't follow simple instructions.

..and the second biggest line of crap from this Century...

"There are no Americans in Bagdad we have beat them in the dessert and they'll never reach our city's."....7 of Clubs
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 08-19-2003, 10:05 AM
70Ted 70Ted is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: upstate ny
Age: 61
Posts: 1,647
Default

i give up
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 08-19-2003, 10:07 AM
70Ted 70Ted is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: upstate ny
Age: 61
Posts: 1,647
Default

i guess my friend that has a Eldebrock on a 440 in his drag car that runs mid 9s also doesn't have a working carb.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 08-19-2003, 07:31 PM
cuda66273's Avatar
cuda66273 cuda66273 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Beaverton Oregon
Age: 71
Posts: 3,685
Default

Just think how fast he would be if he had a real good carb on that thing, even a 1050 Dominator would be better than a Edelbrock and even Edelbrock will tell you that carb is not designed for that application.

What's this Guy's name, car number and what track does he run at, if you have the track number that would save me looking it up.

Did he tell you he was still running the mecanical pump also?
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 08-19-2003, 07:39 PM
cuda66273's Avatar
cuda66273 cuda66273 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Beaverton Oregon
Age: 71
Posts: 3,685
Default

So Ted.... why don't you go to the track and make a few passes with that Edelbrock and see how it performs, then borrow a small Road Demon from someone and try it out....see how much faster you run....you'll get better mileage going back and forth and it'll start and run better than you would ever believe....don't just sit there and condemn and knock our 20 years of hands on Carb tuning experience until you can show me and everyone else why the Edelbrock is superior and why we should spend our hard earned money on one.

After all a Road Demon and a Eddy are about the same price...why would you recommend the Eddy..........waiting for your reply.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 08-19-2003, 11:27 PM
mtrv8n mtrv8n is offline
Inactive User
 
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: new york city
Posts: 904
Default

Because the Eddy works fine for street, and takes less work. I enjoy wrenching, but, not all the time.

Are you really going to tell me that you don't NEED to change the gaskets on the Holley variants frequently?

I ran a 650DP Holley for two years, loved the tunability (even bored out the transfers..), but, got tired of having to fix leaks.

Bottom line...I like to spend more time DRIVING, but then,...I don't race...
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 08-19-2003, 11:29 PM
mtrv8n mtrv8n is offline
Inactive User
 
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: new york city
Posts: 904
Default

BTW, Don, would YOU please spend less time on your Demons and get that new ignition unit to market already?>??

I want to upgrade, but am waiting........
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 08-20-2003, 07:53 AM
cuda66273's Avatar
cuda66273 cuda66273 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Beaverton Oregon
Age: 71
Posts: 3,685
Default

We're working on the box, the snag is the magnetic pickup, it only puts out about .5 volts and we need .75 to 1.0 to fire the box....we're working on it...

Gaskets...the old uncoated gaskets had problems leaking sometimes but the new red coated gaskets seem to work fine. I'm using the Aramid Fiber gaskets from Cometic and I've probably taken the float bowls off 10 times this year, no stick and no leaks.

The MTBE that they had in the fuel for several years ate up all gaskets no matter what they were made from, that may be why you experienced a problem. But to be honest I don't really have any problem with leaks on the Demons.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 08-20-2003, 10:19 AM
70Ted 70Ted is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: upstate ny
Age: 61
Posts: 1,647
Default

sounds more you are just recomending that you know how to work on and sell .
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 08-20-2003, 10:22 AM
rumblefish360's Avatar
rumblefish360 rumblefish360 is offline
Moparchat Bronze member
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: C
Age: 57
Posts: 11,120
Default

I have seen alot of Edel. carbs not make the grade. Better of getting a Carter or an OE Carter I sould say. The tuffest thing is making a change from the choke well choke to an electric choke. Not allways easy or possible. Also watch for the early AFB units, the bolt pattern may be the early small one.
Also on early AFB units, some do not have the secondary velocity plates.
(Just a tip for Carter lovers.)

Bottom line, if you have one, there easy to work on and understand. Just dive in!
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 08-20-2003, 11:01 AM
ajmopar's Avatar
ajmopar ajmopar is offline
Inactive User
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Stoney Creek, Ontario, Canada
Age: 54
Posts: 806
Default

Those early AFB's (I always saw them on 383's) with no secondary air valve were very small, so they didn't need one. My bro had one on a 63 dodge wagon, and it never attemp to bog ever. I always wanted to try a 750 comp on that thing with a better intake, but he was a cheap sob.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 08-20-2003, 06:23 PM
mtrv8n mtrv8n is offline
Inactive User
 
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: new york city
Posts: 904
Default

MBTE, eh?..NYC had it all year round, even though it was supposed to be winter thing. That coulda been my problem with gaskets. Also, Didn't know there was much choice of gaskets for the Demons, only holley parts and Summit stuff that I could find.

Next time (i buy a carb) I'll look for Cometic gaskets...

I do like the visible float checks and tuning choices of the Demon, but, I'll probably get another two years outs this Eddy..


Must say, Don, at least you won't sell something before you are happy with it. NEVER read Dilbert, eh?
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 08-21-2003, 01:18 AM
cuda66273's Avatar
cuda66273 cuda66273 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Beaverton Oregon
Age: 71
Posts: 3,685
Default

When it goes out my door it has my name on it.

"A man is only as good as his name."..Mark Twain I believe?..or was it Lee Marvin from the movie Paint Your Wagon???

If the swamp ends up to be full of alligators, I'm the one who dives in to erradicate the critters, never do I refer a customer to the BG tech line people, I sold it, I set it up and if there's a problem I look after it.....we're not a mail order house, we sell knowledge, expertise, service and when you buy that, we throw in a free carb
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Truck starts better AFTER carb cleaner spray into carb? Eternalfootman Ram Truck Chat 4 06-27-2009 10:44 AM
Trying to buy carb rebuild kit, carb #s? oibrownskin Performance Talk 1 03-30-2007 06:25 PM
Carb ??? JLM440 Performance Talk 2 10-09-2006 02:09 AM
old carb/new carb settings Rods67Cuda Performance Talk 3 08-23-2005 10:45 AM
carb and? littlecampbell Performance Talk 8 05-11-2002 11:32 AM




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:00 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
. . . . .