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08-19-2003, 01:44 AM
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11.98-11.96-11.97 and 112.55
We did it!!!!
New record 11.962 at 112.55 MPH Thanks to Richard at Barry Grant for showing me that one little thing I needed to squeeze that last little bit from the 318, I knew it was there, just needed someone to show me where it was hiding. 
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08-19-2003, 02:29 AM
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whoopee
good job Don!!!!
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08-19-2003, 06:08 AM
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Damn.
Now those are some impressive numbers. Great job!
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08-19-2003, 08:52 AM
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Awesome!!! After beating on them for many years, I will always have a soft spot for the little 318. It would make my day to watch you eat rat motored chevelles all day with the fish!
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08-19-2003, 10:21 AM
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Great job!!!! How much does your fish weigh?
HV
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08-19-2003, 10:41 AM
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3,220#s
Chevelles?....LOL... I hunt the LS-1 454's and the Z-28 Slowmero's down in the test lane every week I love getting beside them and blowing them away by 10 car lengths in a heads up all out run. I always get back to lanes and pop the hood so they can sneak a peek at the little all iron naturally aspirated 318 that just stomped them into next week. Can you imagine the feeling these guy's get with the 454's, 429 Cobra Jets, Z-28's etc. when they pull into the box beside a 318 and THEY get a 1/2 to 2 second head start  .......It would be like me pulling up beside a Pinto and he dials an 11.50...WTF????
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08-19-2003, 10:48 AM
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Congrats Don!!
Hopefully soon my 318 will be back into the 12's solidly. I am going with an MSD 6AL and 4.30 gears to hopefully get back around 12.70 or so. The MSD will help me run the timing were it needs to be, because ever since I went with the light distributor springs the Duster is a little hard to start with the chrome box. I moved the timing back to 35 to get over this problem, but it really runs like jack the bear at 41. Also, I still have yet to lose in the first round with my new Duster!! This is for about 10 race days, but I also have yet to lose in the second round this year (although I've only raced three times). Dartman
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08-19-2003, 11:10 AM
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God bless the Chrysler A-Body! I was recently at a national event put on by the IHRA at Cayuga Dragway Park (now stupidly called Toronto International Raceway Park, the track is 60 miles from Toronto), and the number of A's running in brackets and sportsman warmed my heart. Nothing better than watching a Duster, Dart, Valiant, Scamp, Dart Sport, Demon or early Cuda beat a Camaro or Rustang. I so miss my Duster.
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08-19-2003, 11:14 AM
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The inevidable question...
"And just what was the little mystery thing that was hiding in your car? or is that to top secret to share?" I was wondering when someone would ask....LOL...it's major deal and costs thousands of dollars....LOL I simply added a Cometic .188 4 hole spacer gasket on the top and bottom of my 1" 4 hole spacer. This effectively added .375 or 3/8" more spacer which increased the velocity through the venturi. We then jetted the carb up by 6 points total on the 4 corners which made it a bit on the rich side so to compensate we tightened the valves from .020 to .018....decent air (1600') and zoom right into the 11's. Total cost for .06 seconds off the time slip...$12.00 for 2 gaskets. I should mention that we also changed out the 14 x 4" K&N for a 14 x 4" Rush air filter. We had this tune-up on it last week at the Hot Rod Nationals and the car came alive but we never got the opportunity to run it all the way through ....to many BBC and 429 CJ's that I had to lift on at the stripe so all my passes were basically 1000' runs. Richard from Barry Grant and I came up with this plan at the NHRA Nationals in Seattle a few weeks ago ....I love it when a plan comes together. I think that once the air gets better later in the year we'll see a 11.80 slip. I'm going to make a few more changes, add a 1/2" one hole spacer directly on the manifold to add to the plenum volume this should pick up the top end more without affecting the launch. If it works we'll keep adding 1/2" spacers untill it goes backwards.
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08-19-2003, 11:37 AM
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nice work! A 318 spanking the field! That rules...
I'm imagining a big ol' stack of spacers coming off your intake!LOL! That would get everyone scratching their head! Tell them it's a new prototype for an adjustable single carb tunnel ram! LMAO
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08-19-2003, 11:57 AM
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Dartman...
"because ever since I went with the light distributor springs the Duster is a little hard to start with the chrome box. I moved the timing back to 35 to get over this problem, but it really runs like jack the bear at 41. " What's probably happening is the box is pulling timing out of the motor from about 5K on up, we've run several of those boxes and they're not much better than the Orange box when it comes to the timing retard condition. Most of them will pull 5-8* out by about 5500 and the KV output drops like a rock after about 3500, most fail at about 4500 or drop to below 18KV which we consider an ignition failure. Be very careful with your timing on that MSD it won't retard your ignition more than about 2* at 6K and you'll end up with way too much timing. We ran a system for a customer 2 weeks ago, he claimed he was running 42* of timing in his 440 iron headed 10:1 compression motor on pump gas with a chrome box with no detonation. The test showed: 42* at 3200 38KV 39* at 3500 32KV 38* at 4000 28KV 34* at 4500 22KV 31* at 5500 20KV 31* at 6500 18KV We also noted that after 10 minutes at 50% load and 5000 RPM the box overheated and dropped to 12KV This was with a Blaster 2 coil, we got slightly better results from the Accell big square yellow coil. The point is that even though you think your running 41* the fact is, the box is fooling you and your probably not running more than about 34 or 35 which is where SB's like to run. You can see this with a dial back timing light to some extent but to see the full effect you need to run the system on a distributor machine and a load bank like we have so you can simulate the load resistance as cylinder pressure, heat and fuel density's increase. NOTE:...do not rev your engine to 6500 to see this, you WILL blow it up. NOTE 2: the tips on the plug ground straps were rounded off like someone had taken a nail file to them.... .....open Headers? .."Yes" .......Helmut? "Yes" .......and who told you to crank the timing up to 42*?......"My friend" ....does he run a SBC by any chance?..."Yes how did you know that?" ...I read the plug He emailed me yesterday he ran a 12.28 beating his Chevy tune-up by .45 at 34* total with a used MSD box from Ebay for $85, the proper curve in the distributor, a good set of wires, 2 steps colder on the plugs, a good cap and rotor. Just another interesting story....
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08-19-2003, 12:07 PM
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I also run a 3" spacer between the carb and the air cleaner..I just tell them it's so I can adjust the carb easier..."it's a Mopar thing if I have to explain it you wouldn't understand anyhow"....LOL
You should the see the bitter beer faces I get when I tell them it's a 650 Mighty Demon on top of that heap?
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08-19-2003, 12:22 PM
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650 my a??
Ok I got mine on finily, but still need to finish the tune/adjust. It's close. Took a while as the carb covered both of the holes avalible for the power brake fitting. And tryed a shorter fitting on the carb and still didn't clear. Whoever designed this eddy intake didn't plan on a Holley/Demon carb even if it does have the bolt pattern for them. And I had to modify the tap drill at work [shorten and turn down to fit in the 3/8 drill motor] and make another fuel line. But ready to finish it soon.
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08-19-2003, 04:30 PM
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So Don.....
...when's your book "How to hot rod a 318 and quit smoking, at the same time, in 12 easy steps" coming out? It's bound to be a best seller! Will you send me a signed copy?
Congrats on the new record!
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08-19-2003, 05:03 PM
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that's mighty impressive. i'm just curious as to what rpm's this engine is shifting at and what rpm's you see through the traps. i hope this isn't classified info. great job!!
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08-20-2003, 01:02 PM
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3,220, that's a lot! Do the earlier A-bodies normally weigh that much?
Anyway, thanks for all the insight on your car. HV p.s. Before I built a 360 for my '68 Valiant I was going to build a 318. Everyone talked me into doing a 360 instead. If I had known a 318 would have been as fun as you're having I would have gone with the 318.
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08-21-2003, 10:07 PM
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Gawd if he quit smokin he'd have never made it to the 11s
 ...Good stuff Dandy Don!...The thing is, if you were'nt on the the binders at the last few hundred feet for fear of breakin out the "Fish Fry" would have been in the the 11s awhile ago, correct?...."Sorry Charlie".......and all this with no freakin "H" or "X" pipe. That should stir things up a bit ....By the way, Don what year was it you last red lighted? ....Those Surrey gals are dyin to know!
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08-22-2003, 06:17 AM
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Yes Surr-ey...I would have dipped into the 11's a week ago after I bumped the spacer up by 3/8"....amazing what a $6 part can do to your ET, basically gained .09 just with a spacer and a little different tune up.
Sometimes I amaze myself! Wait until next year....Mopar Muscle will be begging for that interview....and I'll be lieing my a$$ off just like the rest of those 400 HP 318 builders except I'll be the 550HP Iron headed 318 builder...all for under $1200.00, junk yard parts and machined with my Black and Decker 12V handy dandy portable drill set...LOL
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08-22-2003, 08:43 AM
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Make sure you don't tell them you "only" have 1 5/8" headers on it, they wouldn't believe it anyway. Oh yah, and for the pictures put an 1150 Dominator on it. And make sure you go through this month's magazine and make a list of the advertisers in their magazine that run the four colour ads, double spreads preferably, and list them as sources, and for god's sake don't tell them you use a Racer Brown (Who?) cam. I am getting very cynical in my near middle age.
Don't you become a magazine sell out Don, or my belief system will be crushed, and I will end up wearing a sheet and selling flowers in the airport. 
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08-22-2003, 09:50 AM
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I was thinking about 2.5" headers and 2 1150 King Demons on a tunnel ram
Oh and I won't forget to tell them about the bleach and water squirters in the rear 1/4 panel....that's the secret How about a PAW re-grind cam...it'll be just like all the other articles they print....
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08-22-2003, 08:00 PM
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Stop ...stop,,,I'm cryin with laughetr here, omg!!!
Thanks for the little secrects Don. I'm surprised the carb acts well at the bottom of a well. Not allways the case you know.
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08-23-2003, 04:05 PM
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congrats, don!!!! mopar rules... there is no doubt... i know of 2 local chebbie dudes that have gone to mopar power this year... one cause he was looking for something cheaper and more dependable (he was breaking something on every run) and the other because he was running a blown small block and was tired of getting beat by those HUGE all aluminum BB phurd motors. they raced each other memorial day (blown sb chebbie vs mopar hemi with wedge heads)... and due to "technical difficulties" (a broken spark plug) the mopar powered altered coupe beat the blown sb chebbie... running on only 7 cylinders... lol. i think the ET for 1000' was about 6.80 for the mopar... not too shabby for only his 3rd run on that car!!! howard (the owner/driver of the altered) said "i think im going to like this chrysler sh$t"... lmao
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