2 cams, pick 1

[JohnnyDees]

I am building a 360 it is .060, has 915 heads 1.88/1.60 with 30 degree backcut, pocket ported gasket match some work on the valve guide tail Flat top pistons. actual compression is 9.2. Edel. performer intake,650 holley spreadbore. This car will see mostly street and a couple of track days per summer. 66 dart 4spd. 3.55 sure grip.
I have looked at approx. 1.5 million posts on cams and these are my 2 choices. I own one but can return it for the other.

dur @.050 ADV seperation LIFT
1. 216/228 272/284 112 .454/.480

2. 204/216 260/272 112 .427/.454

Which one would you choose? (sorry its so long)

[hedgehog]

Of the two posted #1 is my choice.

[23T]

If you are not totally locked in, send cam back, get refund, buy a custom grind. I know that's not what you want to here and if you have no other options and with the limited info use #1

[Mr.Mopar]

My choice would be a Hughes HEH1928 - 219/228@.050, .489/.524.
Good idle and is for a Hot Daily driver.

[ehostler]

My choice would be to give all of the specs to Jim, at Racer Brown, and let him grind a cam for your specific application.

[dave571]

Of the 2, I'd have to go with #1, BUT I think the seperation isn't right for the application.

[cuda66273]

Typical catalog cams...big numbers, split duration and then a 112 centerline to get it back manageable...call Racer Brown...for about $30 more you can have the right cam for your combo.

[Swinger69]

Of the two go for # 1.
I've used it in a 360 with a little bit better heads, 10:1 Comp. & it made 265hp & 320lb ft @ the wheels.
13.8 @ 104.5 on the quarter with a 2.3sec 60ft. This was with a 2500 stall converter & 3.23 gears in a 69 Dart.(traction was a big problem).
It will make about 16" of vacuum and idles perfectly @ 850rpms.
It works well from idle to about 5500rpms(I found it best to shift there)
A step up might work better but you will need at least a 2500 stall converter.

[JohnnyDees]

It looks like I'm going to probably go with #1. My question about custom ground cams is If at any time I change any component in the system is it still custom or would I need a new cam? Is that price of $30 more include lifters? How do I contact Racer brown? The cams are by crane. These cams were recommended by a local engine builder (who has some national titles to his credit circle and drag) as a decent inexpensive street cam. That would still work if I move up performance wise next year.

[LA360Dart]

The phone book in performance talk has number listed.

[JohnnyDees]

Thanks Im interested to see what they would say. Also I just got off the phone with crane cams they said the smaller cam definitley. And I got an E-Mail from comp cams they also said cam #2 or a .450/.455 112 214 cam if I wanted more performance but that was max.

[JohnnyDees]

Thanks Im interested to see what they would say. Also I just got off the phone with crane cams they said the smaller cam definitley. And I got an E-Mail from comp cams they also said cam #2 or a .450/.455 112 214 cam if I wanted more performance but that was max.

[23T]

Any time you change a flat tappet cam you must change lifters and the $30.00 is just how much more a custom ground cam that fits your needs exactly cost over an out of the box one cam does(LOL) all

[djswwg]

Of the 2 listed, #1 is the best choice. But there are way better ones to go with, as already mentioned. Good luck......djs

[JohnnyDees]

Why do you think the cam companies recommend such a mild cam?

[dave571]

The 9.2 to one, may be the reason.

Sure that's lots for a street car(my 64 RB will only be 9.2 to one), but with only a 108 centerline.

What has Jim at racer brown recommended?

I'm quite curious.

[JohnnyDees]

I contacted racer brown and he recommended a .460 220 110. or a .430 210 110. for torque. Overall he seemed against dual pattern for my application.

[hedgehog]

I don't like the split cams for Chrysler either. The .460" 220 110 is ok. Then install it on 106 and run the piss out of it.

[PRO]

Johnny your last post has the ONLY choice for what you have,the ,430 210 , 110,this cam will make the biggest torque numbers easily but dont expect much more 5200 rpm......PRO..

[ehostler]

Dual pattern cams are crap in almost any application. They are only good for mis-matched components and for cam makers that can't make a quality cam for a specific application.

[dwc43]

Actually dual patern cams are quite good for small block cars since they need the extra help getting the exhaust side gases out of the head due to the heads poor exhaust ports. Also split rocker ratios work well too.

[JohnnyDees]

Confusin' ain't it.......................

[dwc43]

Sometimes .....

[Tarrbabe]

Okay, I'm from the old school. I beleive that you won't be happy with the small cam. With the bigger cam you wil quickly learn the bog point and shift so you don't strain the engine. With the 4 speed, I would chose the larger cam. You can always downshift or not expect the power/torque of another cam. If you want a less than stock came, cool. But if you want it to run on the top-end, you will want more cam. The 68 340's with 4 speed came with 284 dur. and about 6500 rpm. This was a great cam for the day. But I would still call RB or someone that would make a one off cam for me.

[JohnnyDees]

Tarrbabe-

Are you saying the larger crane or the racer brown?

[dave571]

I'm voting for the larger racer brown.

I'm agreeing with tarrbabe on the reason...4spd.

[eric414]

DWC,took the words out of my mouth.