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Old 04-04-2004, 02:51 AM
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I'm going to install a roller pilot bearing tomorrow and I'm wondering what side goes into the crank. And any tips on putting this thing in?
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Old 04-04-2004, 03:52 AM
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Arrow collar

Should be a slight collar on the rear of it,I dont like them because they get dry and screw up sooner than a bushing type does.If you are going to wear it out quickly it does make it speed shift better but in something you drive daily on the street that you are going to put lots of miles on a bushing is the better choice.
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Old 04-04-2004, 03:57 AM
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What if you put a bunch of grease on the crank side? Could it work it's way out onto clutch? Do you have to take out the bushing when using the bearing? CxCx
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Old 04-04-2004, 04:12 AM
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funny you should mention grease, that's how you get the bushing out. pack the hole with grease and pound a spare input shaft in the hole. or a spare 883, if you're strong. or if you don't have a spare input shaft. mopar action is good for lots of things
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Old 04-04-2004, 04:16 AM
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Good tip! I read that somewhere and was gonna try it. I wish I new that about it 15yrs ago w/my first manual trans car. CxCx
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Old 04-04-2004, 04:21 AM
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Lightbulb die grinder

with a carbide bit and grind through the outer cage,pop it out with a screw driver then.Works 4 me.
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What if you put a bunch of grease on the crank side? Could it work it's way out onto clutch? Do you have to take out the bushing when using the bearing? CxCx
MoparMarcIdaho-whats your opinion on this post? Thanks CxCx
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Old 04-04-2004, 04:56 AM
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Question Ahhh Well

My opinion is that i just got home from the bar and if you displace the area with enough grease it should work when you are sober.
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As far as the grease working it's way out and onto the clutch I have not had that problem at all. I had a leaking rear main and thought it was the grease melting and draining out, but upon inspection after pulling the motor, I found all the grease in the crank was still intact. I dont remember where I read it but may have been here, you can actually leave in the bushing and install the bearing if you want. Before doing that I would check and see what condition the bushing is in. I was able to remove mine with a bushing removal tool that just screws on the end of a slide hammer. One good pop with the slide hammer did the job easy.

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Old 04-04-2004, 11:28 AM
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In a Mopar mag. article they said to take it out if using the roller. I wonder why Doesn't seem like it would matter. CxCx
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didn't that article say something about cutting 1/2" off of the input shaft?
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I think thats if you have an undrilled crank. Evidently they didn't drill some cranks on AT cars and some were drilled but not finished; requiring an undersize bushing for a MT swap- or the roller bearing of course.CxCx
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Old 04-04-2004, 07:16 PM
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Exclamation half inch off

The only time I have ever had to take off a half inch is when you are using an automatic crank,the hole is still there but shallower so you bob off part of the input shaft.Slightly smaller diameter too.
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