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Old 11-18-2005, 12:25 AM
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Default 440 Victor heads are coming in 2006!

Edelbrock has the new big block victor heads for 2006. Look out Indy!
The new head has huge 280 cc intake runners, and Hughes said they could possibly flow 330 CFM out of the box.
Now with some port work they hope to see close to 900 HP.

Hughes also has a new main girdle coming out for the 440 so it can hold up to 900 HP.

Just think what 900 HP can do in a 2450 lb car.
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Old 11-18-2005, 12:05 PM
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Just think what 900 HP can do in a 2450 lb car.
Ahhhhhhh, that should be on the peppy side I'd think.
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Old 11-21-2005, 10:38 AM
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Default Edelbrock Victor Heads

http://www.hughesengines.com/heads/e..._bb_victor.asp
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Old 11-24-2005, 08:40 PM
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Default The Victor heads are on the market right now!

I was hearing 2006, but they are ready now! Summit has them at an outstanding price. I'm buying mine from Hughes Engines.
I received an E-mail from Gregg at Edelbrock, this is all the info he has on them right now.
2.20 intake valve & 1.81 exaust valve. The flow was 340 CFM, but he didn't know at what lift.
Good enough for me!
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Old 11-25-2005, 09:30 PM
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I was hearing 2006, but they are ready now! Summit has them at an outstanding price. I'm buying mine from Hughes Engines.
I received an E-mail from Gregg at Edelbrock, this is all the info he has on them right now.
2.20 intake valve & 1.81 exaust valve. The flow was 340 CFM, but he didn't know at what lift.
Good enough for me!
Do you have a link to the Summit ad for those heads? I couldn't find the product description in the online catalog.
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Old 11-25-2005, 10:46 PM
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Default Try this!

First off, I don't know why this post got moved to Vinage mopar chat.

Go to Edelbrock and get the part number for the new head. Then go to summit and use that part number to find the new head.
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Old 11-27-2005, 04:55 AM
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Are they aluminum? Open or closed chamber?
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Old 11-27-2005, 02:32 PM
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aluminum. Closed chamber.
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Old 11-27-2005, 03:53 PM
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I didn't find the PN on Eddy's site.Anybody supply one?
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Old 11-27-2005, 07:27 PM
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Default Here's the info!

Let's move over to Performance talk where this should be in the first place.
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Old 11-27-2005, 07:34 PM
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Dave, you are correct. EB does not list the Victor heads on the website yet. That being the case, Summit doesn't have them. EB only lists the Preformer RPM heads in the open and closed chamber designs.
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Old 11-27-2005, 08:10 PM
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Default The low down on the Victor heads!

Let's start off with the facts.
1: 2.20 intake valves & 1.81 exaust valves
2: 280cc intake runners & 100cc exaust runners
3: dual quench 75cc chambers
4: can be machined for Max Wedge ports
5: fit both B & RB blocks
6: Part # 77919
This is the part I like. Hughes Engines reports a possible flow of 330 CFM out of the box. WOW! You can bet when Hughes Engines test these heads they will have these babies making power.
I was sent an E-mail from Gregg Suyenaga (Edelbrock Tech) The only flow number he had was 340 CFM but no lift.
Hopefully Hughes Engines will have a very good report on these in a couple weeks.
Summit sells the heads bare for $1340.00 for the pair.
Email www.hughesengines.com if there are any more questions.
If you find out more, let us know.
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Old 11-27-2005, 08:40 PM
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Let's start off with the facts.
1: 2.20 intake valves & 1.81 exaust valves
2: 280cc intake runners & 100cc exaust runners
3: dual quench 75cc chambers
4: can be machined for Max Wedge ports
5: fit both B & RB blocks
6: Part # 77919
This is the part I like. Hughes Engines reports a possible flow of 330 CFM out of the box. WOW! You can bet when Hughes Engines test these heads they will have these babies making power.
I was sent an E-mail from Gregg Suyenaga (Edelbrock Tech) The only flow number he had was 340 CFM but no lift.
Hopefully Hughes Engines will have a very good report on these in a couple weeks.
Summit sells the heads bare for $1340.00 for the pair.
Email www.hughesengines.com if there are any more questions.
If you find out more, let us know.

Seams like a better head then the performer. When did they come out I have not seen a PR?
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Old 11-27-2005, 10:50 PM
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Odd that EB does not list the head on their website. Also odd that Hughes does not list it...

Summit does list it; however, they do not have them in stock. Estimated ship date is 12 December. That tells me that EB isn't in full production yet.
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Old 11-28-2005, 12:09 AM
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Default on review they look like indy 440-1

have not see anything but this post still IMHO they seam to be targeted at indy's market. I think I would pay 300 more to get the 440-1 unless there is clear data that EB is better. Remember when Indy made parts for us and EB gave of the cold shoulder, now they come to play.
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They list them in their whats new for 2006

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http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive_...ew_Product.pdf
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They list them in their whats new for 2006

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http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive_...ew_Product.pdf

A benefit over the indy ez is that they take a standard intake manifold. The disadvantage is that they need an offset intake rocker arm. But looks like a great head for a BB stroker!
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aluminum. Closed chamber.
thanks for the info.
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Old 11-28-2005, 04:46 AM
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They list them in their whats new for 2006

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http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive_...ew_Product.pdf

A benefit over the indy ez is that they take a standard intake manifold. The disadvantage is that they need an offset intake rocker arm. But looks like a great head for a BB stroker!
I was not compairing them to the ex heads they are closer to 440-1, also the PDF said they are compatable with the Victor manifolds only.

I would love to see side by side 440-1 and victor test ran both at std and max wedge openings.
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Old 11-28-2005, 08:01 AM
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A benefit over the indy ez is that they take a standard intake manifold. The disadvantage is that they need an offset intake rocker arm. But looks like a great head for a BB stroker!
Sorry; however, the EZ heads do take all standard manifolds. Indy clearly states that the the EZ heads will take ALL stock intake and exhaust manifolds.
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Old 11-28-2005, 08:07 AM
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I was not compairing them to the ex heads they are closer to 440-1, also the PDF said they are compatable with the Victor manifolds only. .
That is just their way of pushing the Victor intake. The Victor intake for the 440 will fit on 906 heads or the Victor head. Just like the Performer RPM head was designed to maximize the Performer RPM intakes, the Victor head is designed to maximize the Victor intake.

So far, I don't see these as being any better than the EZ head.
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Old 11-28-2005, 08:40 AM
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I was not compairing them to the ex heads they are closer to 440-1, also the PDF said they are compatable with the Victor manifolds only.

I would love to see side by side 440-1 and victor test ran both at std and max wedge openings.
The PDF said it will fit existing Victor manifolds, not Victor only.
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Sorry; however, the EZ heads do take all standard manifolds. Indy clearly states that the the EZ heads will take ALL stock intake and exhaust manifolds.
You are correct, I type it backwards.
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Old 11-28-2005, 01:32 PM
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Odd that EB does not list the head on their website. Also odd that Hughes does not list it...

Summit does list it; however, they do not have them in stock. Estimated ship date is 12 December. That tells me that EB isn't in full production yet.
Yes, I did notice that they were to ship on the 12th. I'll wait to see dyno testing first. It all comes down to how much power they make compaired to cost. Hughes engines sells a 500 inch stroker with Edelbrock RPM heads that make over 700 HP. They are going to try and get close as possible to 900 HP with the new Victor heads. This tells me that 800 HP should be alot easyer to hit with the Victors, any thing above that and it's iceing on the cake.

Now, add an 8-71 and will see if the new main girdle from Hughes can keep my block together.
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You're going the wrong way...

You want less static CR, if you are going with forced induction. Closed chambered heads aren't going to help you there...
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Old 11-29-2005, 08:49 AM
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You're going the wrong way...

You want less static CR, if you are going with forced induction. Closed chambered heads aren't going to help you there...
Yes, I'm aware of static CR and closed chamber heads. Cometic has a MLS gasket with the right thickness for what I need. Along with the right gasket, Venolia custom makes one of the best blower pistons to go with any CC chamber head.
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the Victor head is designed to maximize the Victor intake.
Actually, the head was designed without trying to optimize it for the Victor manifold. The head was designed trying to make the best raised runner head and still be easy to bolt-on. The only way to get a raised intake port in the head was to raise the rocker shaft.

My favorite feature is the built-in spacer so the standard manifolds will bolt right on, instead of needing a spacer kit like the Mopar stage VI heads.
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Roger
Glad you joined this thread, so this head is a competitor for the stage VI and indy 440-1 then?
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Yes, although, I think it blows the Mopar Stage VI heads out of the water, as those are raised intake port heads, but they put the spring pocket in the factory height.
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