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Old 01-22-2006, 01:13 PM
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Default Suspension/superstock Q's??????????

Does anyone have experience using Mopar Superstock springs in a 68 Charger? Even with Comp. Eng. Slide-A-Links and the biggest Hoosiers that will fit in the wheel wells it still has a big traction problem. Like about 40' of rubber off the starting line. Before the "Slides" it would spin to the 60 foot mark. Will different springs help? This car can be seen at www.spd-kilz.com. It's the white Charger. Thanks to all..........................djs
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Old 01-22-2006, 01:41 PM
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You may want to look at the CalTracs, as the Slide-A-Link wasn't really designed for an application that needs slicks. The next option would be a true 4 link suspension.
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Old 01-22-2006, 02:27 PM
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hello, with S/S springs, can't use any traction bar with them. the S/S spring is a traction device unto itself. using them together causes suspension bindup and will bend and twist the housing. best bet, is to install the complete calvert system, bars, springs, shocks. it is a bolt in system. no having to fabricate or weld. It does work, the 60' times will be consistent.
plus, it's adjustable. I've been down this road already. just food for thought.
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OK, so what's a "calvert" system?..........djs
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Most SS spring cars don't use anything, not even a snubber. They were designed to work by themselves. I use the Slide-a-links and they work great. They work pretty much the same as Caltracs, just are more street friendly. My Volare has 500lbs more front weight than rear and my times are in my sig. The 11.29 pass did blow the tires off, I have totally stock suspension other than the slide-a-links.
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I just watched the vid. Your car is making good power to run 120mph at around 4000lbs, mine is 3615. What are your 60' times? The guy with the mustang did not do enough of a burnout, thats why he spun every pass. I'll post a pic of mine on launch with the little tires. this was a 1.58 60' this is 11.90 trim.
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Maybe I'm missing something here. I thought that when you heated up slicks, you were supposed to leave a track of rubber past the start line. Then back up in a straight line. That way, whne you launch, the slicks get a better bite on the hot rubber that you just layed down.
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I don't think my car has enough power to do a burnout past the start line. Only 6 sec and faster do that. I can just warm up my tires and hook. Only the Outlaw cars at the OSCA events do long burnouts. They are Promods with mufflers.
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Like I said... I could be missing something... I've never run slicks.
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Here is link to Caltrac's, http://www.calvertracing.com/
they are not to be used with SS springs, when at the track
check out the stock and superstock stagings lines.
talk with the guys running them...

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Thanks for all the replys guys. Glen440, the best 60' is the run you see at 120 mph. I have the timeslip somewhere but if I remember it was a 1.65. Obviously not good enough, which is why we're trying to eliminate all the wheelspin. This is a tuff situation because we don't want to relocate the battery to the trunk or 4-link the car as it's primarily a street cruiser and is just too nice to hack up. The sway bar has been taken off the front and it has 90/10's. How much will drag shocks help out on the rear of the car or are we just wasting money?....................djs
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All the tracks i have run at you are not allowed to do a burnout past the starting line ,unless you are in the pro classes. It would take too much time to run the whole field of cars if every car was allowed to do a long burnout.In fact one track Kil-Kare in Xenia Oh. you cant back up once you do your water burnout unless you ask the starter,and then only to straighten your car position. Sign at the starting line says, You back up,you pack up.
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hello, when you buy the calvert traction setup, you'll get bars, springs, rancho shocks. it is a complete system, the rancho shocks are 9 way adjustable. by using preload or no preload, stiffer shock or softer shock, and bar placement ,you can find what your car likes. I have them on my 340 duster. like the guy says, look at stockers, by the way, calverts SS/G mustang runs 10.40's on 9" tires and his bars, just food for thought.
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Your car is making good power to run 120mph at around 4000lbs, mine is 3615.
I agree. djswwg, what do you have for a engine set-up?

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I looked at the vid again, the rear of your car does not raise like it is designed to. Are your shocks too short? Does not look like much wheel spin either. How much air do you run in those? I use 20psi in my Hoosier 28X10 slicks. Almost looks like you can see concrete on the starting line, not prepped very good. If the track is not prepped I get 1.8 60'. If you are close to TMP on a OSCA weekend you will never find a stickier track, T&T is slow cause we have priority and T&T goes between index and heads up.
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Maybe I'm missing something here. I thought that when you heated up slicks, you were supposed to leave a track of rubber past the start line. Then back up in a straight line. That way, whne you launch, the slicks get a better bite on the hot rubber that you just layed down.
Most tracks frown on this procedure and would give you a "talking to" about it. If the tires are hot and you are on a well prepared track a "burn through" is unneccessary. The pro's do burn throughs, average "joe racers" generally do not.
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Terry, it's a 440 stroked to 499, e-brock heads, ross pistons, CAT rods and crank, M-1 intake, 950 holley, TTI exhaust(complete), 3500 stall. BTW, nice looking RR!...............djs
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