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46dodgem
12-23-2007, 10:00 PM
Anyone here who can tell me anything as far as numbers if this car is a rarity? I found one that is unmolested but would need complete restoration. Has the 340 in it and 727. I remember a "Twister" from back in the day but don't recall the Sizzler Any help is appreciated. Thanks, 46dodgem

rumblefish360
12-23-2007, 10:58 PM
It is a rare version of the car. Not many were made. Believe or not, ask Demonsizzler about it. I know he's known for his T-Q work, but he also owns one such car.

http://thermoquads.com/

Ramcharger360
12-23-2007, 11:37 PM
Demon "Sizzler" -- Cool New Item From Dodge
DETROIT -- Dodge's little Demon, the popular 108-inch-wheelbase addition to the compact line for 1971, now offers a Demon "Sizzler" for sporty car enthusiasts more interested in "show" than "go."
The "Sizzler option package has 13 items, five of which are offered at "no charge" including rallye wheels, color-keyed grille collar, body side tape stripes and stylish, black hood treatment.

Grille collars to match body colors are available in special sporty colors -- Citron Yella, Plum Crazy, and Hemi Orange. The standard collar is silver.

Other bright body colors are Green Go, Butterscotch, and Top Banana. There are 12 standard body colors from which to choose.

Package items include dual, color-keyed outside racing mirrors (left remote); "Tuff", racing-type steering wheel; carpeting; combination plaid cloth and vinyl bench seats; rear deck panel stripe; bright drip rail and wheel lip mouldings; and 6.95 x 14 white side-wall tires.

Bucket seats and D78 x 14 or E70 x 14 tires with raised white lettering are optional. The standard Slant Six engine is 198 cubic inches. A 225-cubic-inch Six is optional. Standard V-8 is 318 cubic inches.

A-59 SIZZLER PKG 1971
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Demon 69,861
Demon 340 10,098
Sorry they didn't break it down any better Good luck it sounds like a good car to have.

crvtec90
12-24-2007, 12:07 AM
sounds like a good candidate 4 a magazine article.

rumblefish360
12-24-2007, 09:21 AM
Good job Ramcharger

DEMON SIZZLER
12-24-2007, 10:33 AM
Not too many left out of 3,443 built according to G. Govier; but other Mopar production #'s experts say under 1,200 built.

Also as I understand it, the 318 cars had a 3spd std and the 198 cars had a 904 std and the optional engine was the 225 with auto which is what my car was originally. Now it is a 340/904/8.75-3.91:1 Sure-Grip.

The curved hood stripes were first used on the 'Sizzler packaged' cars and was an available option on the '72 340 Demon with and without the scoop. The only year the 'Sizzler' decal and A-59 option was used was 1971.

The Tuff wheel, all 340 stripes/Demon Decals were std equip. With the Rally Wheels, the trim rings were an option.

My car has factory front sway bar, optional trim rings, Tuff Wheel, 340 torsion bars but std rear leaf springs all documented on my build sheet.

I have the original 1971 Ga title and fender tag and still have the trans, engine and 7-1/4 rear.

If I had to guess, the Twister cars although not too many left, outnumber the Sizzler cars 4 to one.

46dodgem
12-25-2007, 01:08 AM
Talked with the owner of the Sizzler a bit today and made arrangements to see the car Thursday. The car is original Centra Yellow with the Tuff wheel option, sport mirrors and stripes. He said it was original hood pins on it but have seen no mention of them in what few articles I have been able to find on this car. It had rallyes on the front but not on the back. Plus he confirmed it is a 340 engine in the car and the engine is not froze up although not running at this time. We will see Thursday to see if it is saveable. The pictures look like it is pretty solid for the year.Also can anyone tell me where the codes are on this car to check it and where the build sheet would be if it still has one. Thanks, 46dodem

fastnos
12-25-2007, 09:03 AM
Hey 46dodgem, You should look on the drivers side inner fender for a data plate. If it's there, it will show you what was installed on the car. On the build sheet, the accepted place for it usually was under the rear seat between the springs and foam. Be very carful with it, if you take the seat out and try to pull the 30+ year old paper out.
Might be better if you just look at it, and jot down the numbers. If you buy it, then you would have more time to "finesse" it out without tearing it into 10 pieces.

Ramcharger360
12-28-2007, 02:01 AM
The factory had put the build sheet between the back seat and trunk divider panel on the 71 I had and I hope the owner still has the fender tag to the Sizzler. Also mine had the hood pins from the factory but this was a factory ordered car, I've seen some with and most without the hood pins. If you can find a dealers 1971 Demon brochure you will find this as an option. Check that baby out and if it checks out grab it.

Tazdevilish
01-01-2008, 04:42 PM
I'm pretty sure the sizzler was available with all 340 car options except for the 340. Apparently they were built to offset insurance regulations because it using the 318 or slant six was not classed as a muscle car in the eyes of the regulations

TrashedCharger
01-01-2008, 09:14 PM
I'm pretty sure the sizzler was available with all 340 car options except for the 340. Apparently they were built to offset insurance regulations because it using the 318 or slant six was not classed as a muscle car in the eyes of the regulations


That is correct. This is also why the Duster Twister was only available with the 318.

If that car has a 340, it is not original. It was Chryslers answer to the market that wanted a small sportscar without the bill to fit.

They only had the Sizzler and Twister for 1971. Chrysler cut back heavily on the high performance engines on the A-Body platform from that year on. The only A-Body that could be had with a high performance package after 1970 were some of the coupe/ fastback cars (The Duster and Demon/Dart Sport).

From 1971 and on, you could no longer get the A-Body platform hard top or sedan models with a high performance engine. in 1971, Chrysler also realized that there was a market to be had in selling the hard top A body throguh their Chrysler Plymouth dealerships in addition to the Dodge dealerships as the Dart. This is why they created the Plymouth Scamp to accompany the rest of the Valiant models. Technically, all of the Plymouth A-Body platform cars from 1970 on are called a Valiant (Valiant Duster, Valiant Signet, Valiant Scamp, etc.)

And because the Plymouth Scamp was debued for the 1971 model year and not earlier, none of the Plymouth Scamps could have come available with any v8 other than the 318. This is also true of the Dart models from 1971 and on.

Tazdevilish
01-02-2008, 01:42 AM
There was a 1971 340 Dart Swinger available. I maybe wrong on the numbers but there was about 40 of them built in Canada..extremely rare

TrashedCharger
01-02-2008, 02:51 PM
There were a few oddities outside of the US market that hit sales. In fact, the A-Body can actually be seen in full production up until the early 1980's in Argentina as the Dodge LeBaron.

gomangoman
01-15-2008, 02:00 PM
wish i could find one!

46dodgem
01-15-2008, 05:31 PM
Upon looking at this sizzler this is what it is. The interior is completly gone. No seats front or rear, door panels gone. The engine is missing the intake and carb. The trunk floor is completly ate away from cancer. The steering wheel is shot. The underside of the hood is looking like it is ate up with rust. The good side is the body looked pretty solid. He wants $3500. Any thoughts guys?

Mojoluv
01-23-2008, 02:13 PM
Interesting thread here. I own this particular Demon that is being talked about in this thread. The car is still for sale or trade (4-wheeler). One correction to the info here is that the car does not have a 340 in it, but the original 318 that it came with. The automatic trans is long gone. The car was automatic on the column with bench seat. The seats are long gone also, so there is no chance of pulling out a build sheet unless there is one above the glove box, if it still exists. The fender tag is intact. These cars are very rare. I have been dealing in only Mopars for 25 years and this is the second one that I have ever seen. If anybody knows anyone looking for a great project car....send them my way. thanks.

Dave
Mojoluv@live.com

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70Ted
01-28-2008, 06:44 PM
about 3k more than its worth

Upon looking at this sizzler this is what it is. The interior is completly gone. No seats front or rear, door panels gone. The engine is missing the intake and carb. The trunk floor is completly ate away from cancer. The steering wheel is shot. The underside of the hood is looking like it is ate up with rust. The good side is the body looked pretty solid. He wants $3500. Any thoughts guys?

340dailydriver
01-28-2008, 07:17 PM
You'd be better off buying a nice clean Duster/Demon with a 318 and ordering the decals and stuff from Year One.

7duster0
01-28-2008, 09:32 PM
Looks like a good find.

Mojoluv
01-29-2008, 09:12 PM
about 3k more than its worth

Im sure its a lot better than that rusted out junk you have up there in NY!

V8punch
02-01-2008, 10:08 PM
In Brazil we have A bodies until 1980 too!!!!

Ray Bell
02-01-2008, 11:11 PM
Yeah, but you also had Esplanadas...

If you have a few Esplanada engines to sell, I'll find buyers.

V8punch
02-02-2008, 12:15 PM
do you want hemisul?

TrashedCharger
02-04-2008, 06:47 PM
If I was looking for a project car, you'd have a phone call. Rust does not scare me at all.

If you still have it down the road, maybe once I sell my truck, I'll give you a buzz.