Pro Stocks at Columbus

[QCHemi]

Not lookin' too bad so far!! GA back in front...
Psn Driver Vehicle ET Speed
1. Greg Anderson Grand Am 6.900 200.17
2. Scott Geoffrion Escort 6.908 199.43
3. Allen Johnson J&J Racing Stratus 6.909 198.67
4. Warren Johnson GrandAm 6.910 199.85
5. Kurt Johnson AC Delco Cavalier 6.911 200.08
6. Taylor Lastor Dart Cavalier 6.916 199.76
7. Jeg Coughlin Jeg's Mail Order Cavalier 6.918 198.79
8. Darrell Alderman Mopar Parts Neon 6.920 199.46
9. Greg Stanfield Mopar Parts Neon 6.927 198.88
10. Troy Coughlin Jeg's Mail Order Cavalier 6.944 197.65
11. Steve Schmidt Competition Eng 6.949 198.41
12. Mike Edwards Young Life Grand Am 6.950 198.35
13. Bruce Allen Reher-Morrison Grand Am 6.953 199.05
14. Mark Pawuk Summit Racing Grand Am 6.954 198.50
15. Ron Krisher Valvoline Cavalier 6.955 198.70
16. Mark Whisnant RW Performance Cavalier 6.964 197.25
After Round 1

[JCNathan]

Yep, not bad so far...but you know me -- I'd be happier if our Mopars were runnin' 6.80s and the brand "Xers" runnin' in the mid-90s. But that's just me...never satisfied!!!

[QCHemi]

Same here...we need a win......

[QCHemi]

1. Greg Anderson Vegas General Constr Grand Am 6.875 200.53
2. Scott Geoffrion Blakeney Motorsports Escort 6.883 200.29
3. Terry Adams Barry Grant Cavalier 6.886 199.55
4. Warren Johnson Performance Parts Grand Am 6.890 199.85
5. Allen Johnson J&J Racing Stratus 6.893 199.20
6. Dave Connolly Bullet Motorsports Cavalier 6.894 199.91
7. Ron Krisher Valvoline Cavalier 6.898 199.32
8. Darrell Alderman Mopar Parts Neon 6.899 199.46
9. Kurt Johnson AC Delco Cavalier 6.901 200.14
10. Taylor Lastor Dart Cavalier 6.901 199.76
11. Barry Grant Cavalier 6.902 199.20
12. Jim Yates Splitfire/Peak Grand Am 6.905 199.02
13. Jeg Coughlin Jeg's Mail Order Cavalier 6.906 199.35
14. Jason Line Ken Black Racing Grand Am 6.911 199.58
15. Steve Schmidt Steve Schmidt Competition Eng 6.919 199.17
16. V. Gaines Western M'Sports Cavalier 6.923 199.17
Still anyones race, although I think GA sure has found something....unreal.

[JCNathan]

Yep...GA has got 'em all wonderin'. Amazing how Blakeney can make those GM DRCEs run with the "big boys". Shows that the DRCE is still superior to the twisted chamber, splayed valve "hemi". Heck, maybe we'd be better off with those B-1 wedge engines!!! Then again, maybe not.

Crossing my fingers, hoping for a win tomorrow!!!

[Sam French]

Well we had the PS hemi for 4 years now and to be honest its performance has been well modest. I am wondering if mopar is working on something new for next year since the stratus will be the only legal mopar car to run. I expect to see some major engine changes by next season.

[QCHemi]

On to next week...GA wins again....the only bright spot about GA winning is..that means the Johnson's are not winning.

[skankweirdall]

Originally posted by Sam French
Well we had the PS hemi for 4 years now and to be honest its performance has been well modest. I am wondering if mopar is working on something new for next year since the stratus will be the only legal mopar car to run. I expect to see some major engine changes by next season.

So you are going to compare 4 years with the Hemi to 30 years with the DRCE? I think they've done an amazing job with a totally new engine in this short of time. Yes I'd like to see them do better but I believe they are doing a great job with it. The problem as I see it is there aren't enough people doing development on it like there is for the DRCE.

[JCNathan]

Er, Skank...sorry to burst your bubble here but there hasn't been anything close 30 years of development on the DRCE. It was designed "from the ground" up in the early 90s.

Sam is absolutely right...time to throw away the twisted chamber, splayed valve "hemi" and try something else.

Oh, how much development time has Geoffrion and Panella had with their Ford?? They're out runnin' us too!!!

Geeeez...

[Slant Cecil]

The DRCE has been around almost 20 years, it was in the mid '80s when WJ started on it. It's now in generation 3.

Cecil

[Steve1118]

The basic design of the DRCE is at least twenty years old.

It was originated and designed by WJ himself, using the big block Chevy as a building block, back when he was involved with the Oldsmobile Pro Stock cars of the early eighties of which he was so successful. The original designs were even intended for some fuel applications, and even John Force worked with them briefly back when he still ran Oldsmobiles. It is now in its third generation, and according to a very well known engine builder, the fourth generation may be in service by the end of this year.

I believe that the new Hemi (or whatever, but Hemi is OK) is doing very well indeed in only its third year of existence. The word on the street is that there is a second generation cylinder head that is to be released shortly that they are very optimistic about.

I know that Larry Morgan is getting a lot of heat on these boards lately, but LM's job is primarily research and development. It is my understanding that he is developing pieces that will eventually wind up on all the cars. Therefore, his inconsistency is somewhat explained.

[Sam French]

I knew something new was being worked on. I hope it all works out. I sure miss the days of mopar being in the 1&2 spots. The only rumor I heard about the current heads is that head porters would blow out the inner two ports. Then they would have to get it weilded up.

[skankweirdall]

The DRCE is a big block Chevy and it's been around since the sixties. I'm building one for my neighbor right now. I hate those things but their money is as good as anyones.


Oh and the Ferd? It's a DRCE as well.

[Sam French]

I thaught NHRA had a rule about part numbers on the head and blocks. GM Ford and MOPAR ALL had to have valid parts and part numbers. IF it a DRCE in SG's car how are Hurley and Scott getting around the loophole that states they MUST be using ford parts.

[skankweirdall]

They are Dart blocks or something stamped with a Ford part number with Fords blessing. Same for the heads.

[Sam French]

Well thats is about as LAME as you can get. I am surprised that the GM teams are rasing a big stir. I would if I were them. That is NO different than what Eickie did and the GM guys got ALL bent out of shape over that.

[skankweirdall]

I agree, it is lame. However the deal with Eicke and the Mopars was that they were using blocks without the Mopar part numbers. That's what the stink was. Eicke didn't get the new aftermarket blocks with numbers done in time and NHRA said no more time extensions and bounced them out.

[MoparBilly G]

Note to Allen Johnson:
Don't let Darrell pick his lane, do it for him!!
If he had went in the right, he would have made at least one more, and possibly a few more rounds.

Note to NHRA Safety Safari: When you see a Pro-Stocker get that far out of shape at a 1000' feet.......FIX IT AFTER THE FIRST PAIR!!...not after five guys lose thier round, and two guys wreck thier cars!!!!! This is the disgrace Larry Morgan was talking about last year when he got fined!! NHRA should get the bill for repairing Jason Line's car.....it was due to thier incompetence!!!!

[340king]

Amen, Billy!

[Steve1118]

I think that Rickie Smith chooses the lanes for both of them.

Don't forget, Darrell was in the first pair of Pro Stocks that went out on Sunday, and the fuel cars before them had done just fine. Besides, I don't think the Pro Stock cars can really learn much about a lane by watching the fuel cars run, anyway.

I think it was a learn as you go deal, based on the best info they had at the time.

[prostock]

With DC projecting to lose 1.2 BILLION dollars this year, you better hope there IS a P/S program next year.

Rick Jones' IHRA P/S "hemi" runs a ford block.

[skankweirdall]

Originally posted by prostock



Rick Jones' IHRA P/S "hemi" runs a ford block.

Quick! Somebody pull this knife out of my back!

[Jamze Duncan]

prostock, I was just wondering where you came up with that tidbit?

[prostock]

It's a fact. Check for yourself. The block has a phord part number. DC doesn't build a block that is compatible to work with the IHRA rules.

It does have DC heads on it.

Kaase builds his engines.

Dale Eicke ran CAT (read GM DRCE) blocks during his time, with basically a GM head. It's nothing new for DC.