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[Stoga]

Originally Posted by TK

Wow, look, Stoga is trying to run another member off........

No, I like Breezes, stratus, neons, whatever, just, it's the Cavalier of Mopar. Tons made, not real quality, cheaply built, yip yip yapppity yap yap...
Any more personal attacks?

No personal attacks, I've not called you a liar, thief or said anything about your personal hygiene. Just because I disagree with you, it isn't personal, unless that's just your style. No big deal to me either way.
As for your bias against economy class Mopars, as usual, you're full of it. For every Cavalier running, there's 10 in the junkyard or back lot of used car lots, busted and inoperable parked along it's junk GM brothers with different name plates and badges. My friend's Geo was a POS, so was the ones I've seen in town, they're all history now. However I still see K-cars and older running around, Geos and old asian imports? Not so much, they fade fast once they get a decade on them if they even make it that far. As for this little nugget, "To me, a Neon, Breeze, Avenger, Stratus, Caravan, ect, is NOT a 300K car" My Caravan is well on the way to 300K, and I've had a 400K Reliant, a shame that here I am telling you this again, you apparently forgot...again.
No car lasts if you don't take care of, however, you saying that economy class Mopars don't last regardless of care is just flat inaccurate.
And just for your information, every 64 Chrysler letter car is a 300K car!

[TK]

you saying that economy class Mopars don't last regardless of care is just flat inaccurate.

I never said that.

And for every Neon Stratus, ect running, there is ten in the junkyard here too.........
Know of a Pontiac Firenza, 400K........

It happens.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by John Kunkel

The topic that I CHOOSE to address is your incessant whining about the topic.

Cool. let us know how that works out for ya.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by 340_GTS

Frankie, I had the same kind of problems with dealership "service" departments too. The worst were always GM dealers, including GMC, Oldsmobile, and Chevrolet, numerous times. I got so tired of their BS that I swore I'd never buy another GM product. And I haven't even looked at one for over 12 years now. Most of my new cars these days are Fords.

Yeah, It really has nothing to do with brand, it's directly attributable to the dealership owner's and management's business practices. Some people are just crooks.

Here, I got lucky. While the Dodge dealer operates on the shady side, the GMC, and Ford dealers are straight up. I'm not to sure about the Chevy dealer, though. No real complaints, just not thrilled with their service department.
Like I said though, I lucked out because the owner of the local GMC dealer also owns a Chrysler Dodge dealer in another town (Jacksonville). So, now I can go to the local Dodge dealer, put together the vehicle I want, and order it from the local GMC dealer. I can even take delivery of it in the GMC lot, and they'll service it, too. They will even do the warranty work! Oh happy day!

My daughter wants me to look at a Grand Caravan or a T&C with her. I'l be doing that later this morning.

[Stoga]

Originally Posted by TK

I never said that.

And for every Neon Stratus, ect running, there is ten in the junkyard here too.........
Know of a Pontiac Firenza, 400K........

It happens.

Hooray for you, now in the future, keep your GM crap and anti-Mopar rants out of THIS forum, ok?
It's the old basic rule, just because you own one kind of Mopar doesn't give the right to come here and bash or belittle ANY of the others.
And if you want to talk up GM trash or Import garbage, go to THEIR forums to do so. It's an abuse of this Mopar themed site to do it here.
You've shown yourself repeatedly less than enthusiastic about Chrysler products, so it's not like anyone needs a refresher of your opinion, especially the folks who happen to like them.

And just so you won't be confused in the future, this forum is for Off-Topic conversation, not anti-Mopar or pro-anything else. Let the others pay for their own bandwidth.

[TK]

You are one ignorant old man.

[John Kunkel]

Originally Posted by Frankie

Cool. let us know how that works out for ya.

Works every time.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by John Kunkel

Works every time.

Well, good.

[Frankie]

OK, Looks Like we found a T&C for my daughter. We looked at a few of them, and found one she liked. I worked the deal through the local GMC deal, as I explained earlier, She will be taking delivery of it in Jacksonville.