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Old 05-16-2005, 08:11 PM
Duane Upshaw Duane Upshaw is offline
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Default Mopar Gold Box vs M.S.D. ignition

Just curious here.I have always used the gold box ignition on my car without
any problems along with the correct coil and balast resistor.I have never
tried a Msd or equivalent.Does anyone have direct experience here.Yes I
know about the multi fire and the capacitive discharge etc,but can anyone
verify whether my drag strip et would get lower if I changed to an msd
versus using the gold box.My car currently runs 11:20 at 119 in a 68 Dart
with a w2 340 so the gold box is no slouch.But is the muti fire clearly better?

Duane Upshaw
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Old 05-16-2005, 08:15 PM
Kevin Garceau Kevin Garceau is offline
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You may or may not pick up in ET.

What you might notice is a little better idle with the MSD. It only gives multi spark at low rpms. It aids in fuel burning in race cars which are generally rich on idle.

You will get a hotter more durable flame from the MSD, but if you are OK now like I said you may be efficient enough with the gold box. I wouldnt run a gold box, but thats just me. The MSDs have so many more usefull functions is one of the reasons I run them.

I have 7al-3 in the Daytona andn will have another for the dragster.
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Old 05-18-2005, 05:04 PM
BDS 871 Cuda BDS 871 Cuda is offline
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Default MSD only!

Yes, I ran the gold box also. It has only 1 function. If everything is working right then it all works good. One small glitch and your screwed. Try calling the tech line at Mopar for help.
It is way better to use all MSD. Trust me, the added cost is well worth it. The MSD is way more tuneable and has alot more functions. One other thing, the tech line is easy to reach and very helpfull.
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Old 05-18-2005, 05:51 PM
Duane Upshaw Duane Upshaw is offline
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But did your car run any faster?

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Originally Posted by BDS 871 Cuda
Yes, I ran the gold box also. It has only 1 function. If everything is working right then it all works good. One small glitch and your screwed. Try calling the tech line at Mopar for help.
It is way better to use all MSD. Trust me, the added cost is well worth it. The MSD is way more tuneable and has alot more functions. One other thing, the tech line is easy to reach and very helpfull.
Yes I am aware of the different features available when using an MSD.But
what I wanted to know was is their any absolute performance gain over the
gold box.I have had problems initially when I installed the ignition but once
I got them sorted out I didn't have any problems.When I first installed the ignition the engine was running terribly.It took a while to diagnose this,but it
turns out the coil was to close to the module.I moved it further away and
the problem was solved.I put the MSD universal rev limiter on the gold box
and it would not limit the engine.I called MSD on that one and they had a
no charge modification to get it to work with the gold box.After these two
problems I haven't had any trouble.But I am looking for more performance
and have never tried an MSD,so I was wondering if anyone had any direct
experience with the two ignitions.Last year I even added a crank trigger
to the gold box.I fabricated my own wheel and used an MSD pickup.The
old magnetic type and it worked out great on the gold box.

Duane Upshaw
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Old 05-21-2005, 11:14 AM
BDS 871 Cuda BDS 871 Cuda is offline
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Default More HP ?

I wish I had the answer. When I switched to MSD I also put on a Demon 825 race carb. The distributor was the main problem on my motor, so I tossed the mopar system for the MSD.
The 750 Holley DP worked, but had a warped base plate. The two changes made the car go from 11.58 down to 11.16 and 3 to 4 mph.
More HP from the MSD? I would say yes. How much? Good guess.

This change made it run alot better when I drove it on the street.
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Old 05-21-2005, 12:51 PM
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you'll pick up only if your present ign is hiding some power, now. Really no way to know if that's the case. but, as mentioned, MSD takes that guess away, and their tech guys are very helpful. (not just phone jocks). You really can't go wrong by making the switch. If nothing else, when you eventually need help, you'll be very glad at that point.
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