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Old 06-15-2002, 10:47 AM
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Default TD or Jesel Rockers for my Original B-1 Heads

I have been breaking Push Rods and Rockers on my B-1 Heads and I think that there is to much flex in the Rocker shafts. Has any one had this problem and what did you do to fix it?
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Old 06-15-2002, 10:35 PM
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Gripe Pushrods

I had that happen, but with stageVI heads.
I found that the problem was the pushrod tip was not getting enough oil, it think it was slinging it of at RPM's.
I changed to a Comp pushrod/ lifter setup that oiled through the pushrod's and it solved the problem. The only down side is that I lost some oil pres. at idle but above 1500 RPM's or It goes back to normal....
Maybe worth checking
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Old 06-15-2002, 10:39 PM
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Did you have to bush the lifter bores when you went to the Chevy type pushrod setup.
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Old 06-16-2002, 12:16 PM
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Hemi Guy,

I'm guessing you're presently running the Mopar/Koffel rockers, have never heard anyone that had anything good to say about them for the reasons you've already mentioned. Not familiar with
the Jesel setup but the T & D's have a cup adjuster instead of a ball which requires a pushrod with ball ends on both ends. The adjusters are pressure fed from the shafts to oil the top of pushrod. Pretty neat setup, I think, and eliminates the need for oil through the lifter and pushrod, although what Blackcuda suggested would be the way to go if you stayed with the Mopar rockers.
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Old 06-17-2002, 05:33 PM
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Cool Lifter

Sorry, I have had company so I have not been checking my mail lately... I did not bush the lifter bores to run them. At the time I had an old high school buddy that worked for them and after trying the traditional set-up, and it failing he suggested that I go to the oil through the pushrod type deal.

He even swapped out some of my old stuff for the new so I did not have to buy it all over again. It worked for me, and my pushrods were easier to get too.

If I had bushed the lifter bore, then I probally would not have lost the oil press. at idle, but in my case it is not severe. I idle hot 15-20 psi and above around 1500 it comes up to the bypass.
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Old 06-21-2002, 09:29 PM
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I run Harland Sharps on mine. I had to narrow a couple of the stands and make my own spacers to go between the rocker arms. I'll try to post a pic if it will work. It's not a great pic but I have roller bearings between the rockers and between the exhaust rocker and the stands to eliminate the friction from the pushrod angle. This stops the wear between the rocker and spacer that is common to the B-1 rocker.
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Old 06-22-2002, 01:28 AM
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It's hard to go wrong with Harland/Sharps, got 2 sets of them for iron head and Stage VI, but I wasn't aware they made rockers for the B-1. How do they compare pricewise to the T&D's, they were $895 plus shipping about 3 years ago, just curious. I ran a guy from Memphis with a red 2-door post A-body, (don't remember exactly what year or make, just remember it was a B-1 motor) at Monster Mopar about 5 years ago, I was in a candy red 23T with a 512 iron head motor with Hilborn Shotgun on a tunnel-ram. Any chance that was you??
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I ran T&Ds on both my INDY and B-1 heads. I used the individual shaft set-up and it was vastly superior to the standard stuff. Oiling through the pushrod is the better way to go if possible. It is likely that your lifters are drilled already and since you will have to change pushrods to the ball/ball arrangement for shaft rockers, might as well get drilled pushrods and oil through them.

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23-T Wedge the rockers are basicly a W-2 rocker and they were around $850. I looked at going with a Jessel set up but they were very much against a spray bar set up. They want to oil through the pushrod but my indy block does not oil the lifters so I couldn't do that. I think I know who it was that you raced at the Monster Mopar Weekend. I have a 72 Cuda which at that time was primered and had ALMOST READY on the doors.
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How ya been, You probally don't remember me but I saw you run your car at Byhalia a long time ago. I had a bunch of ? for you about the B-1. Glad to here you still got the car and are still runnin it....
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blackcuda, I don't remember but if I seen you I might remember who you are. I'm still going to Byhalia and occasionally Memphis Motorsports. What kind of car do you have and do you ever take it to the track.
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Hello again, didn't think you'd remember, it has been a long time. Well I have a black 70 'Cuda, 440 w/ stage VI heads. I have been running the heads-up, 10.5 inch tire class. I have not been to Byhalia in a couple of years. I got a new job, more money but I have to work weekends . In a few years I should have enough senority to get one weekend day off.
I have been running up at Jaskson, Tn. they have a 10.5 tire race about once a month, but the last race I ran at I had a BIG BOOM with the tranny. The car has been down since.
I got married, had a baby, and got a house, whew, but I should be able to get the car going again soon! BTW, I need a cage do you know anyone close by that is good? How's your car running now? If I remember you were in the low fives at Byhalia.
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